CSU may cut enrollment
94 Comments Published by clay November 18th, 2008 in State and Local Politics.CSU may cut enrollmentPlease read the linked article and editorial and: (1) Discuss what you learned(2) And how this applies to be you, be specific and use an example (please refer back to the readings) editorial on the issue
We all know that we are in a financial crisis right now. After reading this, they are saying that for the first time in their history, the CSU system is thinking about turning away qualified students because of this financial crisis. With this happening, the application deadlines are being pushed up and they are raising academic standards for freshman students. This applies to me and it should also apply to all senior high school students because we are all gonna go to college next year and now with this budget crisis, some colleges would have to deny students their admission to go into one, even if they are qualified students. Also because it will be hard to afford to go into one if some students have some financial problems. Even if you can afford to go into a college, it would be nearly impossible to get access into a class that they want to attend. Now that I know that this might gonna happen, I’m more worried that I’m not gonna get into a college that I want to go to or even not getting into one at all
It is really sad to hear that that CSU may cut enrollment, this is going to make life way more complicated for a new upcoming freshman trying to apply to any CSU all over the United States. Many of them come from family’s that are really having financial problems and cannot afford their kid’s education after high school. In my opinion these students are the minority, the percentage of Latin students who didn’t go to a university is much more higher than any other race. Another thing is that not only the CSU system is doing this cut but also the UC system as well. For example, my friend and I went to UC Riverside for an on-campus tour for like about twenty minutes. After the tour they gave us a little pamphlet with some of the university’s information and in it said that next year’s prices will not be the same as this current year, they will increase. We also have to get better GPA’s and test scores than the previous years. Well there is nothing we can do but try harder and hope for the economy to get better.
I never thought though just because we were in a big deep financial crisis it would affects us students this much. As high school seniors we only have one thing in mind which is college and it was the only thing we’ve been dreaming about since we were little but now to hear that our dreams will soon fade away comes to show how much this state actually cares about our future. We have dedicated 13 years of hard work to get this far and we even busted our butts to show colleges what were made of, and for them just to turn us down just because of budget crises is just wrong. Why do we have to pay for their mistakes? If they want a better future for America they have to look at who is going to be that future and who is going to lead it which is us. But no they’d rather waste stupid billions of dollars building new railroads or stuff that’s not even necessary. It just comes to show how cruel and stupid people have gotten.
This has effected me a lot because I’ve been recently accepted into Cal Poly and Cal State L.A. But I had my heart set on Cal Poly because Cal Poly is known for architecture and business which I plan on majoring for Business Administration, Management & Human Resources Opt. Since a kid I always told myself one day I’m going to show people what I’m made of by being a great Entrepreneur just like my dad. Statistics show that the students that had their hearts set since the beginning are the ones that actually succeed in their goals. Its a shame if they actually do start kicking people out because you never know what those people could have accomplished in life.
Its ridiculous.
In this past Sunday’s LA Times, I read the CSU schools will raise their prices at least 10%. The UC schools will go up at least 9%. Representatives from both school systems say that they will try their best to fight the raising costs, but in times like these, its most likely not going to happen.
It angers me that the CSU’s will go up so high. Many UC-qualified students turn to CSU’s because they are a lot cheaper and more affordable. Now, those people will get a slap in face when they receive their rejection letter from places like, San Diego State or Pomona. And it will piss them off because they had a 3.5 GPA and a 2000 on their SAT’s.
Recently, I had a choice between APU or a CSU. I automatically had to go with the CSU because it was a lot cheaper. But now, I see that those numbers are going up also.
I have about $10 in my college fund and I still have no idea how I’m going to pay for it and I don’t really have the option of going to a JC. And plus, the JC’s will go up too because of overcrowding.
Like Andy said, its pretty stupid for California to even consider building some stupid $40 Billion train. Instead, they could be fixing the education system and maintaining lower prices for college.
In the article, it said “Cal State currently receives $2.97 billion of its budget from the state’s general fund and $1.5 billion from student fees.” Thats about $3.5Bil a year. According to wikipedia, the train would be about $40Bil. THATS ALMOST 15 YRS OF CSU SCHOOLING. It not even counting the additional money that will be used in the process of building this dumb transportation crap.
This is just crazy. Thanks to the budget crisis CSU’s are now going to consider cutting enrollment to compensate for the money that they do not have. Cal states are really sought after schools, especially if you live in California. They are cheaper than UC’s and private colleges, and provide you with a better education than a junior college.
CSU’s cutting 10% of theri enrollment is one of the stupidest ideas they could have had. People who already have jobs wonder what it will be like when our generation fills in their position. Well, unfortunatley we will not be able to fullfill those positions if we can not get a Bachelors degree to have that kind of job. Out of the six schools I applied to, 3 were CSU”s. The other six were private colleges and universities, and I merely applied because they gave me early action applications. If I do not get into a CSU, then I do not know how I am going to afford college. Even students that are fiancialliy stable would still have trouble paying for college because college is never cheap. If you ask me, I think that the government should not even consider making budget cuts in Education. A students education is his/her future. If the government cuts this and the schools cut the students, then where is theri futer now? Flipping burger patties at Mcdonalds for the rest of their days. I don’t think so.
This article informed me of what type of economic hardship we are living threw. Like the article said,”California is already spending far less than the national average for each of its students, and about half what states such as New York and New Jersey and even the District of Columbia spend per student.” I find it very disturbing in a way that the one of the most powerful countries is spending less money in the education systems than a third world country like columbia. i see that in the near future this cut that CSU’s and UC’s are doing will effect the country for sure, even me.
I send a college application to Cal Poly maybe they might accept me or maybe not, because of the cuts. Without education its hard to do a living. Sometimes when i think about this topic i get worried that the situation might even get worst.
But then again i think to myself wasn’t this situation for told in the bible in 2 Timothy 3:1-5-” But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.”
So when i hear thing of these sorts, economy worsening every day, cost of living going up, people loosing jobs i worry but yet again i feel happy because in the bible God promises that when these things occur know that the end of this system of things is near. in revelation it depicts a beautiful scenery of how God’s system will differentiate”Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
I think this whole CSU cut is pretty sad. How kids trying to get in to college will be harder for them to get in to any CSU, i think most, probly wont even want to go to a CSU anymore, because the cost will be too high or they just can’t seem to get in. 50,000 freshmen a YEAR! The sad part is, is that these kids have done everything they can to get into the school they want, but they wont get accepted because of the 10% drop! I think it’s unfair that students who have planned to go a certain college then get denied because they live in a different state. There are already schools in the process of the CSU cut. How scary is that, when you think that it’s going to be soo hard to get into a CSU! I predict that most kids will give up on the college dreams and just settle. =[
My plan for college is that i was going to start off at a community college then get a transfer, and i’m beinning to see that it’s actually the way to go. Because as it said in the article that not many freshmen get accepted to a CSU but sophmores don’t have to worry about it NOT EVEN TRANSFERS! And that’s my plan is to TRANSFER!
So i understand that we are in a HUGE money crisis but why start taking money from education systems it should start effecting other places before it goes to the schools.
When i first heard about the CSU cuts and heard the talk about it, it was quite depressing. Just because what if this gets even worse? Will i have to worry about this when i have kids? maybe not but just think, parents who have high expectations for their children, it’s going to be hard on the parents as well as the students.
When I heard about Arnold’s plan to cut many educational funds to colleges I was not the least bit surprised. He is without a doubt one of the worst governors this state has had. He Should give some of his hundreds of millions to help fix the devastation that he caused to the states econmoy. Originally I wasn’t really set on going to a CSU. I did apply to CSU Fullerton. That was my fall back school. I have a guranteed admission to some UC’s in the state of California. Iam not really worried about getting into a school, however my main concern would be paying for college. I can only imagine what the prices of some of the schools tuitions are goin to skyrocket to. I wanted to go to a UC because to me that symbolized the reward for working hard, and here I am crewed. Thanx Arnold!
I understand that he economy is in a terrible state right now, but why should I have to suffer? You know what really bothers me? That older people are always trying to say that my generation is not as book smart or into our studies as we should be and that we spend to much time on the internet. Well whos generation just went and F***ed up the econmy. Thats right yours. We will be remembered as the generation who got screwed out of the opportunity to go to college because some old geezers wasted too much time worrying about my generation, than keeping an eye on their money. Way to go!
What I learned from this blog is that life is unfair and you just have to deal with. The mistakes of the people we elect into office have serious repercussions on the rest of us.
So to my fellow students keep your heads up! Watch one day when we recover from this crises, the government will come up with some half ass plan to try to make it right. They will pay us something or try to give us something, but remeber the government doesnt pay you to walk away, they pay you so they can walk away from you.
To hear that the CSU and the UC schools are raising tuition prices and are turning away more qualified students is harsh wake up call. This means that our 09’ class will have a very difficult time getting in to and paying school. The upcoming freshmen might not get as much financial aid and scholarships because the school s might not be able to afford it anymore. All the budget cuts that the governor wants to make really hurt the schools in California, but the prison systems get 10x’s more than the schools do. This is a scary fact to know because now I see that California cares more about keeping bad guys in check than helping the future generations find a better life. Without being able to go to school, some students might turn to different sources to make it through life, and might not always choose the best way to survive, now California will have both problems to deal with, the education crisis and the fact that the community is not as productive as it could be. The army also gets more findings than schools do. Why is it that California wants to spend so much money on things that show how much California enforces rules, instead than on things that will create people that will make new rules that will create a better California to live in. The day that I see schools have all the money they need and the army have a bake-sale to raise money is the day I will know we are heading in the right direction.
When I read this I didn’t know that there would be 10,000 students turned away and a 10% drop in admissions. That is a lot of students to turn away on top of that K-12 is also being cut. I think this is a mistake. When I thought about the cuts I wanted to know what California was spending most of its money. I did a little extra research and I found out that soon California will be paying more for prisons than higher education. I think that is ridiculous this is going to cause a crippling in our education. By reading “California is Cutting Education Funds at it’s Own Peril” I was reminded that proposition 1a passed. I think it’s astonishing that we would rather spend money on a transportation unit than funding for higher education. I have always seen teachers and parents and society telling us, the students, how important it is to get a higher education. In order to find a good paying job to meet the qualifications for that job. What message are we sending when we are choosing to build a train or pay more for prisons than our own education. We are in tough times with the economy and we do need to make some sacrifices but I would think that we would sacrifice the things that could be held of like the railway. Rather than crippling our society in education.
I think for me personally this will effect my ability to get into a young scholars class. They are probably going to be more packed than ever and we as high school students get last pick anyway so it’s going to be a lot harder for us to find something. I doubt we could find classes that we need or want. Then once we get in the classroom will probably be packed and the student to teacher ratio will be off. I wasn’t planning on going to a CSU. I have a remaining question will this actually affect the private schools as well?
I find that the cuts that the CSU’s are making is a real let down on the people of Californis. As the article says at least 10% of the freshmen that would, now won’t. Imagine being a student that has done everything required, and knows that they will get in, but now won’t because of the budget crisis. Being promised a space, a now suddenly everything is changed. This is education we are talking about and i find it saddening that this kind of this must happen. What is worst is that this is the first time in California history that his has happened. Middle and lower class students will be hit the hardest.
I hope that California finds a way to fix all of this mess, the Governement must try harder in some way. I know for one im going to have to go to a Community college, but i had always planned to do at least 2 years of Cal Poly Pomona, but now i just don’t know whats possible. Hopefully everything turns out fine and dandy in the end for us, and we find ourselves in the colleges we won’t, but i just don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Seeing as they will have to do a 10% drop of first time admission, i find it saddening, that students that have worked to hard, and have the grades just won’t make it. This is unfair
Wow. First of all… we are already ‘the dumbest generation’.. now stay with me here… but if we are this said ‘dumbest generation’.. what is happening is only going to worsen the next generation. and for all we know.. possibly the generation after that. California really screwed itself over on this one. kudos to you voters. made the right decision. yes, lets spend lots of money to research for a high speed train and we’ll take the money out of schools to help this research. and HEY while we’re at it.. let’s take MORE money away from schools and use it towards prisons. yup, that’s a fantastic idea. this is going to be such a let down for all the students who have worked so hard to get to where they are now. they worked there asses off. and for what?
i never planned on going a CSU, i always wanted to go to a community college first and see where i go from their. i can transfer when ever i feel ready and have the money to do so. however, because of the economic crisis… a lot of people are going back to school so they can get a job. so i’ve already applied just to ensure a spot.
what is happening now, is really quite depressing. i feel very sorry for all those students who are going to be let down. it’s completely unfair.
I learned that it is for sure to cut the admission rate. But that there’s a great chance for budget cuts to occur in the education system. All these cuts will leave people out who tried in their four years hard just to get a 3.5 and to get good enough SAT scores. Many students who don’t have the financial help bust their asses all year long to realize that Arnold wants to leave them behind. I am a living example of what is happening with all the cuts. My plan was not to apply for UC’s or CSU’s because my parents are having a hard time financially and i thought i might help them out if I didn’t go to expensive schools. My choice was going to be Mt. SAC because of the money. But most of my teachers told me to just apply and that there was going to be a lot of help with financial aid but what i find out now is that that’s also being cut.
I agree completely with what Roger has to say because it is stupid that the army and jails are getting more money that education services. It is stupid because education is the future for life in California and the Jails get more money whose life should be over for the inmates stupid mistakes. I feel that the people in office are not looking at the big picture but rather there looking at just one glance. And maybe by messing with the system there messing the States future.
After I finished reading all these articles, I was shocked when it said According to the Census Bureau, California is already spending far less than the national average for each of its students, and about half what states such as New York and New Jersey and even the District of Columbia spend per student. It is hard to believe that they would keep cutting the fund for education. I can imagine how many students will not be able to get into the university they want and forced to move to other colleges because of the financial problems, including me. Others might not even get into one. Applying to Mt. Sac is my only choice now. I wish i will not be squeezed two years later when i need to transfer to anohter school like what the article said “The university has never tried this type of enrollment cap, and Cal State officials said they cannot be sure how it will work. While sophomore transfers and out-of-state and international students will be squeezed.”
I just hope that they could solve budget crisis by doing so,or it would just make us feel even worse.
Okay so this blog really got me thinking a lot about the way the budget cuts and enrollment cuts will really hurt my chances for college. The artcile is really talking about how colleges are struggling to give higher education because so much money is being taken to help the better budget in California. What really gets me is why are they still letting people in other states come to California and go to school, and not even student born and living in California can get into a CSU.
This is also really affecting my life because I am going to need finacial aid because my parents will not pay for college and now that they are taking all of these cuts I don’t even know if it will be possible for me to pay for college.
In my own opinion i think that there are many other places that money can be taken from to lower Californias budget. An example is the state prisons. The state spends about $58,000 per inmate, and only $6,000 per student. So are the criminals of the world really worth more than those trying to succeed??
It seems as if admission for us to get into Cal States and UC’s is going to get much more difficult. They have already created a budget cut and now they are planning to cut another $66 million from Cal States and UC’s. They are also going to start lowering the number of admissions for freshman which totally sucks because thats going to be our generation. The state of California is already doing horrible with its economy. Like that dumb proposition that passed for the research of building that new train.Probably less than half of us are even going to get on that train and its just a big waste of money.How the hell can they give more money to inmates than students. Those people are in jail for a reason. For being a menace to society and us over here, we are trying to get an education so that we can make something of ourselves when we get older and not get screwed over by taxes and all that other stuff. Why would you give more money to criminals than students? Thats just ridiculuous. Well then again thats just my opinion. Those people are not even going to do something worth being rewareded and recognized in a good way.We are the ones that are going to be changing the world no them. They are just going to get out and keep doing whatever they did. I guess from the states point of view, criminals will do better than us in the future since there getting more money.
I could care less.
Honestly, I feel sorry for some of my peers who are dead set on going to college. It isn’t that I’m not going to college so it wouldn’t matter to me, but I just feel like college isn’t always necessary. There are so many other jobs that people can get involved in that make even more money than when some people get a college education.
College isn’t necessary. Maybe its a good thing that colleges in this state are going to have to be more picky. I think society today puts way too much emphasis on going to college. CSUs and UCs even have remedial classes for people who aren’t ready for actual classes. If you’re not ready to go to college, then go to a JC first if you want to go so badly. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I’m not okay with where all of our funding is going though. I don’t want to crowd my blog with statistics you’ve already [or should have already] read in the article, but I will say this: Maybe if we could actually keep people in schools, they wouldn’t have to go to prisons.
Because we try to get everyone into college, it devalues what college actually is. Today a Masters Degree is worth what a Bachelors used to be and having a Bachelor’s degree is simply considered the norm. It used to be that only the top 10 or 20% would be able to get into colleges, but due to inflated grades and the way society impresses college on kids in high school [some even younger than high school], an undergraduate degree doesn’t even seem to matter anymore.
There are worst things that could, can, and will happen anyway.
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After reading both of the articles, I’ve learned that California’s poor economy has lead to budget cuts on higher education. The big story has been on the cuts to the Cal State system, because it is going to be hit the worst, but the cuts are really going to effect the UC and Community College system too. For the CSU’s the cuts mean that they are going to have to cut enrollment even when students are qualified. This means incoming students must work harder if they want to get in. For the UC system the cuts mean that it will be harder to get into our first choice school. For Community College it means that it will be a lot harder to get into classes. The budget cuts are going to affect all of us who want to go to college because no matter which route we choose to take college is going to cost us more. It may also mean that we have less selection of classes, and less research material available to us.
Like most of my peers I’m pretty set on going to college. I decided not to apply to any of the CSU’s, so those cuts won’t really be affecting me. Originally my plan was to go to a private school, but with the price of those schools it seems out of the question. I am applying to the UC system though, and I will be affected by how much the price to go to college rises.
More and more kids are planning to go to college, and I agree with Hannah. A master’s degree is what seems to be worth a lot now, and even though a bachelor’s degree is important it almost seems like it’s expected these days. The advice I get from family and friends is to just get through all of my schooling (master’s degree and all) in one try. No doubt this will mean a lot of debt by the time I’m done, but I don’t know how much a bachelor’s degree will really get us the way things are going.
I knew that our economy was really bad but i kept having this thought in the back of my mnd saying “dont worry its not going to affect you that much”. Yeah maybe here and there things will cost more but i always would say those things weren’t important to me. But now after reading this its really hitting me how bad this is going to affect us. Its true what hannah said about there are jobs out there that will pay more than if you got a college education but i still want to go to college even though i know i can possibly just skip it and luckily end up at a good job. Even though i know this i still have a strong urge to go to college. Right now i really dont know where i want to go though because i am still unsure what i want to study so im thinking that i want to just stick with citrus if im not accepted into a CSU. It really does suck that there are kids who have worked really hard to go to college and than find out that they cant go it must be really devastating to them.
In the article that is callled “Califonia is cutting education funding its own peril” talks about what is is happening to the California budget, especially to cut the education budget. The education budget is cut lower in most states as it is and now their is going to be more cuts. But more specifically that $330 million from community colleges cut, $66 million in both in Cal States and the University of California. These cuts would effect the school by having fewer instructor, fewer classes, more students per a instructor, admission of students, and etc. Then are the raise in tuition would happen mid-year, which is unfair because most student pay their tuition on loans and some people might drop out because of the cost. This concerns me because I’m planning to go the UC because the economy is going to influence admissions and worrying me if I’m going to get admitted and once I’m admitted, it’s still competitive because of the class size. Also the cost of college, might convince my mom not to go to UC, and go to a community college. It’s pretty sad to hear that California has a $2-trillion economy, the eighth largest in the world, even more than other countries and we take some opportunity from probing students its not fair!!! What upsets me is that prop 1A was passed allowing us to be taxed for a freaken train rather than students. In the second article called “CSU may cut future enrollment by 10,000″ talks about the total enrollment of Cal State is reduced. That colleges won’t take late application and only the best of the first priories get a place. This doesn’t concern me because I already got accepted to the CSU I wanted but for my friend, I’m concern for them.
As far as budget cuts and the economy, i really have no previous understanding. The only thing I knew was that schools’ budgets were being cut, meaning less teachers, classes, resources, and acceptance rates. I really should be more aware of how UC and CSU schools are being affected, seeing as how I’ve applied to both and need to be accepted… I didn’t get much from these articles, because i had implied these ideas to myself with last year’s budget cuts. I knew what this meant for students like me, but now with the statistics and numbers, it’s scarier than before. The bottom line is that the governor is taking money from the schooling systems and college freshmen are going to take the biggest hit.
This directly affects me. I am a high school senior applying to UCs and CSUs in hopes of admittance (which may now be out of sight). I have no kind of savings for college and no scholarships. Financial aid and/or loans are going to support the majority of the applying students. The biggest scare for me is that eligible students are being turned away – even if we have the best school record ever, our future is up to luck.
When I heard about the colleges are cutting their budget I was pretty shocked. Because what are we going to do? From what I have read I have learned that the state is cutting the educational funds. The schools, elementary, middle schools, high school, and colleges, are all cutting their number of students to get into their school because the lack of money. Since the state is cutting the budget for education, this just means that the schools can’t accept as many students as the schools can. And it also means a lot, A LOT, of students won’t have a school to enroll in. This applies to me because I am applying for colleges, UCs and CSUs. Before I knew about the budget cutting, I wasn’t that concern (I mean I am concern) but now I am not so sure. This news scares me a lot. As an applicant, I am concern that not that many people are going to get into the colleges they want to. This reduces their chance of getting into their dream colleges and hampers their pursuits. Both the UC and the CSU are cutting the same amount of money, $66 million. Not only will we have a low chance of getting into colleges, but also all the work we have done to get through high school is pointless! So doesn’t it suck? And for all the eager applicants, isn’t it sad that even they are eligible to get into colleges; they still won’t be able to get in just because of the budget. This also makes it hard for the people who have financial difficulties, because if they apply for financial aids they probably won’t get as much money as they get before. I am worry and scare because I am one of those people who need financial aids, how are we going to pay for college?
CSU’s cutting 10% of theri enrollment is perhaps the dumbest idea they could have thought up. People with jobs wonder what it will be like when our generation fills in their position. Well, unfortunatley we will not be able to fullfill those positions if we can not get a Bachelors degree to have that kind of job. Out of the six schools I applied to, 3 were CSU”s. The other six were private colleges and universities, and I merely applied because they gave me early action applications. If I do not get into a CSU, then I do not know how I am going to afford college in the event i cant get in to NYU. Even students that are fiancialliy stable would still have trouble paying for college because lets face it its never cheap is never cheap. If you ask me, I think that the government should not even consider making budget cuts in Education. A students education is his/her future. If the government cuts this and the schools cut the students, then where is theri futer now? Flipping burger patties at Mcdonalds for the rest of their days. I don’t think so.
Wow. It is been said that only the high grade point average people will be looked at and accepted first. BUT, not just that there is also the cost of the courses. What is happening to the world? To much selfishness has lead everthing to debt. The most important thing “supposedly” in the world is education. How in the world are people going to be able to do this now? How is grabing an education going to better their lives? My opinion college, school after high school, is a bunch of bubu. Trash, nonsense, there are so many other opurtunities out there to have a great life and make good money with no need of a degree and all that fancy stuff they give in colleges. Now for those who need a specific class to do a specific career, “We won’t be able to offer them the classes they need,” said Diane Woodruff, chancellor of the California Community Colleges. So……theres no way possible for anything to happen. Low and middle class are done, no way to get accepted. Money is the issue. It sucks for those who from day one knew they wanted college, and now they find out they cant.
State of Depression. THE GREED(GREAT) DEPRESSION #2
well. this sucks.
when everybody is nagging for us all to go to college, it’s gonna be a heck of a lot harder now!
and it’s not just colleges, either. even elementary schools are getting punished here!
i said this in a past blog, but here it is again: school money should be one of the last things to cut. so we save a couple of dollars today… but tomorrow, those kids will have a poor education. there has to be way better things to cut *cough* prop 1! *cough*
Amazing how California is putting a train ahead of its own kids.
Ok, so what I don’t get is why most people NEED an education to get a good job and yet, when you go try to get an education its either unaffordable or you just cant get into a college because they are accepting a lot less students.
Right now, as high school seniors, getting into college is pretty much the biggest thing we’re thinking of. That and getting as many scholarships as humanly possible. I for one thing am mostly counting on paying my way through college with scholarships, loans, and TONS of hard work because college is already expensive without a 10% price raise.
Not only is it going to be harder to pay for college, but because of budget cuts a lot of classes are going to be cut also. That is why I’m not taking classes at Cal Poly this year. It is too much of a hassle competing with wait listed college students, college students not on the wait list, and then other iPoly students to get into a class you might not even need.
Like both Tiffeny and Andy said, We SHOULD NOT be building a train to San Fransisco. Instead we can try to keep our CSU and UC prices relatively low by using the $40 million for the train on the colleges.
California has the eighth largest economy in the world! If this is true then why can’t we offer schooling for children from kindergarten up to college for all Californians? Many students who come from low income families will not be able to attend college at all because the schools they would be going to have made drastic cuts in accepting people. For example, the CSU system is slashing its acceptance rate by 10,000 students. Teenagers who were relying on the fact that they were going to get in will have nowhere to go now. Also, community colleges are being hit too. They are letting in the same amount of students but cutting classes instead. I myself have experienced the anger of not being able to find a class. I remember the frustration I felt when I had to run around Cal Poly Pomona asking teachers to sign a paper, only to be turned away because there was no room. It is because of all the turn downs that I had to take swimming as a last resort. Yeah, I learned a little bit about swimming but that’s not going to do me any good when I graduate; I know I’m not going to be the next Michael Phelps. So what if I actually attended Cal Poly Pomona as a regular student? I would be taking swim classes… I don’t want to grow up and be surrounded by a generation of adults who only know how to swim. This cut back will impact the world many years from now when nobody knows anything past high school except for people with prestigious family value.
$66 million might be cut from UC schools. I might attend a UC but the way it is looking now, I might not even be accepted. They are cutting classes and the student per teacher ratio will go up. This is a problem for me because I don’t learn well in the classroom. I have to be talked to one on one to fully comprehend everything. For example, in my math class I have to be tutored twice a week on top of studying and going to the class just to get a C average in the class. What will I do when the teacher has no time to talk with me because so many other students are like me and need her help?
This pretty much sucks for students my age now, because the day when there are budget cuts because of our bad economy happens when we are starting to move on to our new future. But now it seems like its going to be more difficult for us now to do that seeing some things will be limited for us to reach. Especially this budget cut in CSU enrollment. This effects me, and many others, a lot because I’m basically applying to as many CSUs as I’m hoping to get accepted to at least one, but now with the cuts on enrollment I’m pretty much nervous that theres a chance of me not getting in, basically rejection from CSUs.
I think helping highschool graduates have a better future is more important than not too important props, like building that train (i agree with others above). Really, helping students get into the UC or CSU school they can be accepted to can help them become a better person giving them a better chance to fill in there future jobs. Colleges are already hard to afford, students are already depending on scholarships and loans but now worrying about acceptance too is a part of the tough side of applying to colleges.
So this whole thing about the economic crisis is going into effect and is hurting us. The 10% that the The California State University system is planning on doing would hurt like 10 thousand students trying to go to college. Those people affected would be the minority which includes the low income groups. People would have gone to school for a long time (12 years ) would have come all the way for pretty much nothing. i would like to think that im going to get accepted in college but i have no high expectations for this anymore since they would be cutting a majority of people. I dont like this direction of things because it makes false hopes for a lot of people.
How depressing, we all knew it was probably going to get to this because of the financial crisis going on but just finally hearing it is bad. It seems as though most people are playing off as though the financial crisis isn’t happening. They are acting like life is normal all because they don’t see that they are being affected, I have to admit I was like this too. However, now it’s starting to affect my life, because of the financial crisis CSUs are starting to reduce the numbers of incoming students, I wanted to apply to a few CSUs and now my chances of success are becoming smaller and smaller. I really think this sucks because how is this country going to have a good future if only a number of people are educated. I say we need to have as many people with college educations as we can.
After I read the articles, I learned that obtaining a good and respected education in California is becoming more difficult every time. I am shocked that the state is even considering budget cuts on our education. I believe our education is the primary source for our society to get ahead. This budget cut affects me and the thousands of people that are the future generations of our country.
Of course college isn’t an obligation and it’s definetly not the only way to obtain a successful and good paying job. I respect others who don’t want to go to college, but for me college is very important. Especially as a senior who is a soon to be college student, the thought of not being able to afford college or not getting accepted into a CSU scares me. What really sucks is that even if you have the GPA and the SAT scores, we now have an even bigger chance of not being admitted into the CSU of our liking.
The article stated that there is going to be another budget cut from CSU’s and UC’s worth around $66 million. That is a heck of a lot money to take away from our education. It is ridiculous that the state is investing more money on inmates than students. As I alrady stated before, we the students are the future or California. What kind of message is California sending to its residents with the fact that they are investing more money on criminals than students? What is the point of even investing more money on criminals when all they are going to do is sit in jail? You may argue that they deserve a second chance and that not all criminals are bad but, why should the budget cut affect us students when we are actually trying to get ahead in life? Unlike criminals, we are the ones working hard to have a rewarding future.
I think that cutting 10% of the enrolling freshman is horrible. This cut will affect the high schools seniors th most. I am applying to 2 CSUs and this cut will make it a bit harder to get into the schools. I do not think that it is a good idea to cut the enrollment because it will hurt our future. If a senior now can not afford a more expensive UC or private university they will have a much harder time getting a bachelors degree and will not have the job that he could have had. In other words it will not help the economy but rather make it worse in the long run.
Well, after reading this article I have now decided to become a hobo.
10,000 students less?? California is actually going to cut from education to pay for some freaking fast train and criminals? I was already worried about getting accepted to a college with my lame-o grades, and now I’m just scared because If I don’t, my mom is going to murder me. And then she’s going to murder me again just to make sure.
The cut is going to pretty much screw our generation. Here we have tried so hard to get the grades and GPA’s (well, some of us) and we are going to get rejected. And even if we do get accepted, we may not get the classes we need. We are going to end up in like, knitting and rock polishing classes.
That would suck.
OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IS SUFFERING MANY LOSSES, OUR SCHOOLS ARE GETTING LESS MONEY, COLLEGE ADMISSIONS ARE BEING LOWERED AND COLLEGES WILL INCREASE PRICES. THIS IS NOT FAIR FOR THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF OUR GOVERNMENT HAVE MADE SOME TERRIBLE DECISIONS AND IT IS ALWAYS THE LOWER CLASS PEOPLE THAT SUFFER. STUDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PAY FOR THEIR COLLEGE CLASSES ARE GONNA BE ON THIN ICE BECAUSE OF ALL THESE CUTS. TAXES ARE ALSO GOING TO BE INCREASED AND THAT IS GOING TO ALSO AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE. IN CONCLUSION, WE HAVE NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE HARD TIMES AHEAD OF US AND WE ALL NEED TO DO OUR PART TO GET THROUGH THEM.
So after reading this I learned a lot, because I had no idea what was going on. I just knew that the CSU’s were going to be turning away a lot of qualified students. For sure, it says that UCR and UCM will be one of the school that the UC system will send students to because they have the extra space. The UC’s and CSU’s will be making early admission cut-offs to avoid so many applicants. Another way to cut off applicants, is how the college picks them. For example, Sonoma, Channel Islands, Northridge, Chico, San Jose, San Marcos and San Francisco said that they will be taking people from their community rather than people from other parts of the state, and if they do take students from outside of the community their G.P.A. is going to have to be higher and they’ll need higher SAT scores. San Diego State, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State Fullerton, Cal Poly Pomona and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo have already imposed academic restrictions for several years. This worries me because I have applied to CSU Pomona and CSU San Luis Obispo. Although, I have already been accepted into one CSU, I am worried for my two other CSU applications and all of my UC applications.
The fact that California is so in debt does have a big impact on all of us high school students. With the voting of prop 1A, we can see how the mentality of our state is a little corrupted. We want a train instead of educating our students, when really in order to get anywhere in today’s society you need at least a four year degree. And even with a Bachelor’s degree you can still go nowhere, which means more schooling, that is obviously not going to be available, and more money.
What I learned: College’s will be turning away a lot of students and community colleges will be packed and students won’t be able to fit to get into classes. Students will be sent to University of Riverside because of the extra space that they have. Other small colleges will still refuse students by only allowing ones that are local or must have higher SAT scores. Because of California ridiculous debt is the cause of all this.
How it apply to me: Fact is, is that it doesn’t. I’m not all that worried about college because I don’t even plan on going and even if I do my mother takes care of that crap. I have nothing to do it. Never will. So I have no worries, and don’t give a darn.
Well, what has the world come to?
Economy sucks, fires are destroying thousands of homes, there a 7.8 earthquake on the way, icebergs are melting, bees are dying, and ozone layer is depleting day by day. And now thousands won’t even be able to go to college.
I don’t even know how can the government allow this to happen. Coming from a different country one of the main reasons to move to U.S. in the first place was education. I thought I had a chance for a better education here. Now looking at what is happening i am having serious doubts. As of right now i have been accepted to Cal Poly Pomona for my Hotel and Restaurant Management degree, but i have future plans to get my masters in UNLV or maybe even Cornel. It worries me that i might not be accepted or maybe wont even be able to afford to attend those universities. Heck, i am scared about what going to happen to the tuition when i go to Cal Poly. I know it will grow. I just hope my family will be able to afford it.
It worries me that a lot of students will be turned away or wont be able to afford college. I believe because of that economy will worsen even more. There will be more poverty. There will be more people out of jobs. I read Hannah’s blog and she wrote that college isn’t necessary and we put too much emphasis on it. Well I believe that a lot of people have potential and could reach their goals without going to college. But making it big with out going to college seems like luck to me. Every single application you fill out asks you what college you have attended, what degrees you have,,blah blah blah. In the perfect world they would look past that, but in reality college matters big time. You have to play the game. And now its harder to win than ever.
Ariel is right. Maybe we should all just become hobos.
I say this cut is going to devastate the any undergraduate freshmen that have hopes and dreams of attending college. Its our education its our chance at better life then the one we live now and. this chance might vanish due to a cut of 10%. Its a horrible thing for the incoming freshmen let alone those who already received provisional acceptance.I plaN to attend calpoly Pomona for 2 years and then transfer out but his cut could affect big time. I dident realize the effect of this economical crisis until a few weeks ago. Some teacher named Mr Ogden and Mr purther were saying how this crisis is going to effect us and we do not even realize it. I think most of us are now scared because it really is now affecting us not only money wise but our precious education.
This sucks. Seriously we’re called the dumbest generation but who are the ones ruining the economy? We’re supposed to prove them wrong but we are the ones hit by this economic crisis we are the ones limited to higher education..this isn’t fair I was freaked out enough about graduating and now its gonna be harder for me to get a higher education. UGH! im not the best studnet but i qualify to attend a CSU school unfortunately my family isnt the wealthiest so now students like me are going to be turned away. Many schools will just raise expectations like grades, test scores, and a BETTER well rounded student. So students will be turned away from all kinds of schools and the fees will increase to those accepted. Students that dont have the above and beyond qualifications, or are minority or come from lower income families are the most affected. This applies to me becuase its my future theyre standing in the way of.
I don’t know about becoming hobos. A few observations:
(1) There seems to be a discussion going on how best to spend state money. This is the same discussion the legislators are having now and there is only so much money in the pot. What is more important?
Protection of the population today (i.e. invest in corrections) or investment into a younger population (i.e. CSU)
(2) And if we are going to cut, and not raise taxes, what is an acceptable amount of seniors receiving the opportunity to go to higher education in order to maintain a bright future. The last thing I read had 25% of high school seniors in CA attempting a four year. I believe the I-Poly percentage is higher.
(3) Looking at the current situation, I think if you are willing to work for it and sacrifice possible other luxuries/options over the next 4-6 years, I think you will find a road that leads to a BA or BS. My wife is looking at starting a MS degree program in the next year. We are also currently looking at what we will need to do (sacrifice) to make this happen.
What I’ve learned from this article is that Californians are not educated enough to vote correctly. And obviously, we know now why they vote so idiotically is because of cuts to education. Especially, the cuts to K-12, which are the most vital years of education, and where students are supposed to learn about how the government works. But they don’t learn it, and therefore they become adults who vote for “Super Galactica Mega Trains” that do us no justice. And can you believe the children’s hospital bill got voted down? I swear we have our priorities mixed up. To be honest, I don’t care so much about the Cal States being cut, and yes it is mainly because my future plans do not include going to a cal state… But I am concerned about the UC system cuts, that just means that college is going to be even less affordable for me. But as far as cal states go, because of these budget cuts the cal state system has almost become a joke. A lot of the students accepted to cal state’s are better off in community college. I mean community college is a smart financial route for many bright students, but its also a good route for those 2.0 high school graduates. Yeah, I know GPA’s aren’t everything, but still…I’ve been in classes with some of these college students, and the majority of them lack basic grammar skills, and a lot of them start at the very bottom in remedial math. There were about 5 students in the room taking the college level math test with me, everyone else opted out for remedial 2 and remedial 1. See, its like a cycle of death. The California government cuts K-12, the K-12 students don’t learn what they need to be successful in college, they graduate high school with average grades, they still get accepted to a cal-state, they fail the college level placement test because the k-12 system failed them, they sit in remedial classes wasting state funds that could have been used on another student with more potential. Its like no-child left behind, we spend so much money trying to catch everyone up, that the geniuses in our nation lose all there potential because the education system fails them. And this really happens, there’s an article about it that came out in Time I believe, not too long ago, about how a lot of our students with High IQ’s end up dropping out of school because of the focus on making remedial students average takes away the focus spent on fostering the intelligent minds of our nation. And its funny, I can kind of tell that the person who wrote this article for this assignment is a democrat because of their concern on education and how they mention the republicans we voted into office don’t want to raise taxes to help our state deficit.
CSU’s cutting enrollment’s is not at all surprising. I knew that one day that would happen, and honestly I am surprised that it did not happen sooner. Sense over the years collage in general has changed (raising tuition, cutting enrollment’s, etc.) this is not the first time CSU’s cut enrollment’s. However this is, from what I understand, the biggest cut back so far. Of course this is scary, seeing how we are just a couple months away from going to collage ourselves.
This whole crisis with the CSU’s is not concerning me all to much, main reason why is that I am planning on going to a community collage. Community collages are not having to much happening to them, except raising there tuition. Sense the majority of people I have talk to about where they are going to collage, they all say they are going to a community collage. But never the less, it is still kind of freaky how everything in this economy that is going wrong is effecting not only our parents/family; but us (as high school seniors) as well. That is what is freaky.
Sense CSU’s are cutting enrollment’s, that means countless students will be turned away and will have to go to a community collage instead, and all those people will just die because they have to go to a community collage for two years or so then come back and get into a CSU. All of the “smart people” will just hate that; however with all of those students who will get turned away from a CSU, and end up going to a community collage. The community collages may get over crowded, and who knows what will happen then.
I can’t get through my head all the harm the are causing to students that want to have an education and be someone in life. I had no idea what was happening, I did hear people talking about the situation and what was going to happen but now that I read this article it kept me shocked. I learned that the state doesn’t really care for the people that are actually trying to get an education because the amount of money they are taking away from them is ridiculous. I think that the state should take out money from somewhere else because they waste money and other unnecessary things and it sucks that their target is towards education.
Unfortuantely this budget cut is really going to affect me because I want to go to college after graduation high school and off course this is not going to make a difference because I’m still going to try my best to go but it is going to make it way harder. Also this is not only going to harm me but many other people that are trying to get in college and really I don’t think this money situation is our fault and it sucks that we have to pay for it. Everything because of this will be going up for example tuition and books and right now as a country were in a point of life that the economy isn’t good at all. Hopefully they reconsider this big change towards education and find a better solution to get out of all those debts the state has so not only I would be affected but many other students and even parents out there.
Is this what the world has come to? Less people are goign to be accepted to a CSU. Life is so unfair, here I am working to be able to get into a good university and it turns out that because I’m a minority I might not be accepted. Budget cuts are being done for higherr education because the state is trying to get a bigger prison for people who ruined their own lives(well most of them)? What about people who want o improve the way they live(like me). What Alex said is right, some of us moved to this country becuse our families thought that we would be getting a better education here. Even if I do get accepted somewhere the classes I need might not even be available.
alas. the demise of our nation has begun. i believe this 10% decrease in acceptants will cause a chain reaction. students will, are, and are going to forever be discouraged by certain aspects in life. but now, the very thing that encouraged many to move on, get higher education, has now spat in the faces of many. perhapses that is not exactly how it happened, but that is how many will take it. soon only elite students will make it. welcome to a Brave New World. i pray that i am wrong and that this will encourage many to do better. i pray…
As we all know California is in a major amount of debt and making budget cuts in every area that they can. So when I first read this article it really did not surprise me much. But it is unfortunate that it is hitting our generation right now, when all of us are trying to get into these Universities. With all of California’s State Universities making budget cuts, it gives less of a chance for students to get in and learner, even if they meet all of the requirements. So now, current high school students will have to talk more class and work harder then they all ready do, so just maybe their application might stick out a little bit so they get accepted.
At this moment, with it getting harder to get into Cal States and Uc’s it really does not affect me. But that is only because I am planning on going to a different college. But say some time in the future if I want more education or want a higher degree, I know that it will be harder for me to get into one of these Universities. And if these budget cuts are here to stay for the future, it might even affect our generations children from getting into college,
I can’t believe all of this is affecting us, seniors, the most now. Why couldn’t it wait two years before it happened. Either way, I learned that the schools prefer to cut down on students more than cutting down classes and having classes over crowded. I guess it might be better that way, but its stopping many students from going. This is starting to have a big impact on us already, I’m hoping it doesn’t worsen in a year from now.
The way this is affecting me is that I was planning to go to a UC, but they apparently will make many of UC students go to Merced or Riverside. Of all the UC’s Riverside was my 3rd choice, so for me it really isn’t that bad if I don’t get my first or second choice, SD or Irvine. Hopefully I get in either way to any of the schools.
First off i would like to say a big thank you to the people who elected this fine governor….NOT What were you guys thinking
So the big focus on this article is the CSU school and how they are cutting 10% of the new student enrollment. I think its horrible for the people who are enrolling in the CSU’s but its also going to suck for those who are planing to go to a community college. Yeah the CSU schools are getting cut but the community colleges are getting a bigger cut:
“330 million from community college” “$66 million from the Cal State system and $66 million from the University of California” I think a lot of students are not even going to bother with college because of the price.
At first i thought this was not going to effect me because i was not planing on going to a CSU, but after i read the article and saw that community colleges are going to be effected I’m a little scared. I really hope that things work out so that this doesn’t discourage kids form going to college.
Wow, uh this pretty much sucks. it seems to me everything happens to my generation. there has been so many events that happen to our generation and stuff that effect us its crazy.i think its a bit crazy that there thinking about cutting education and number of freshman. out of all the things they can cut, like bulding that train. i think they can hold off on that and put money into education so people like me can get an education and pay taxes, i dont know its a circle and if you mess a part up like helping high school students pay for college and have a chance to get in, everything thing is going to mess up. personally i want a good job later in life, and that starts now by going to college and what if i cant get in due to cuts, and same with others.. whats going to happen.
Pretty much they are saying we’re fucked..to be blunt about it. Because of the finacial crisis at hand, they’re raising standards to get into colleges, and moving up the deadlines. We, as seniors, are greatly being affected because we will be these freshmen in college that have the new standards. And possible, be the only ones affected if somehow we get out of this in a year.
I don’t see why we can’t find some other sorts of cuts instead of CSU cuts, because education is out future. We must be well educated to get out of our problem, and if we aren’t using and working our minds, they’ll turn to mush and we’ll be stuck in this resession, possibly depression, forever. This is the first time in history that qualified students are going to be denied admission to colleges.
What a sad sad world we live in.
I believe with many of the things in the editorial. With such a large economy (sixth largest in the world), California should be able to afford itself the benefit of quality education. The problem is the state is putting many other things ahead of education. In the end, the problem will only be worse for California, with too few educated students.
It is terrible that students who worked hard to have the chance to enroll at these universities may end up being turned away. Personally, I am looking at many schools that are out of state so I am not as worried as most, but at the same time, I still do have much to worry about. I am applying to schools in California and it is minority and low-income students who the burden will fall on. If there is not enough financial aid? I will not be able to afford my education. Granted, $3,800 is nowhere near as much as most of the schools I am applying to (30,000 is average, just for tuition.) The difference is, while California is cutting back on financial aid, and admisisons, these schools are furthering their financial aid plans (meeting 100% fully demonstrated need, offering more grants and less loans, not factoring in a parent contribution for students whose parents make under $60,000 a year.) So, now state schools (CSUs and UCs, which, at first glance, cost substancially less than private, out of state schools) end up costing students more.
It really upsets me to see that the financial crisis is being handled in such a way, that the California government is willing to cut from it’s college and university programs. Not only are they cutting funding to the classrooms (teaching staff, faculty, school programs, learning environment) but also cutting it’s admissions, which is basically stating that even qualified students may not gain entry to the university of their choice. It’s very unfair that hard-working students may end up having to settle instead of going their dream university, which 10 years ago, they probably would have gotten into. The California government has already cut so greatly into higher education that our funding is even lower than most of the U.S. colleges. We need to find a way to make different cuts into california’s funding, cuts that will not so greatly hurt our future students. Qualified students have worked hard to earn their status and should not be denied by a college or university simply because they do not have the funding. It is the California state government’s responsibility to correct this problem, this should not be happening, some student’s futures are at stake.
I learned that colleges will be cutting the amount of students that are being admitted. This is because of the budget cuts,as if we as todays people aren’t going through enough. This sucks because all of the students who dreamed of going to csu’s just might not be going. The second option would be to go to community college. However community colleges are going to be over packed due to this “cut”.
How does this apply to me? Well I think that the budget cut is causing lots of high school seniors to be very scared. I think that this is one of the worst things that has ever happened. I plan on going to college and at first and I was worried but not this worried. I feel like its going to be a challenge to get into Cal state long beach. Whatever the outcome is I know that im not giving up and I am going to college :-p
Haniyah
I’m really concerned about this topic because to me, its doesnt solve the problem at all. The article is bascially syaing that they are proposing to cut 10,000 from all the cali states in California for our academic year. Us, as California people, we are struggling the most as a state because other states depend on us; so for certain stuff, we may need to cut so we can get out of this financial crisis that we are in, but I would have never thought education would be the first thing that would come through my mind. The govenor was so for education in his campaign, but when he had the chance to prove that he was for it, he atuomatically cut it. Even though this is not for sure yet, it still disencourages people to apply or even go to colleges. If people don’t get into the cal states, then the community colleges will become over crowded. This effects us the most, becuase this is our year to go to college. We, as class of 09 worked our butts off just so we can get into the college we want to, now hearing this, is a real scare to me. Whatever the case may be, I’m pretty sure it will all work out in about 5 years, it will pay off for future students.
C/o ’09 is going to have the worst of luck when it comes to applying for colleges. The economic crisis were going through now is going to affect US mainly cause we’re going to be the freshmen going in. When I hear that the CSU system is going to cut funds from college as well as university programs, it pisses me off. I mean how in the world did we let our economy drop sink so low that we’re going to cut funds from our school systems AGAIN? We NEED our education. And cutting these funds aren’t going to allow qualified individuals get into the colleges they want to get into because they were denied going in. They’ve already cut funds from schools and now there are limited classes, I’m surprised they just don’t take all the funds and see how it goes from there. From what they’re doing that just might be the outcome, no money for schools! I’m mad and scared. I’ve applied to CSU’s and know I have what it takes to get it and if I get turned away because of the problems that our State government couldn’t take care of, well we’ll see what happens from there. CC here I come!
It’s a really scary thought to prepare for what we have to face ahead. Because of the horrible economy, and the poorly chosen budget cuts, our generation has to suffer possibly the most. The CSU’s and UC’s are going to cut down on admissions by ten percent, leaving out 10,000 qualified students. Many of those students are going to have to end up going to community colleges, which is also going to cause a huge problem at community colleges, because of population. Also, many community colleges are going to have to cut down by 250,000 current students. Not only are students going to have a hard time getting into a cal state, but once students are in the college, they will also be experiencing many problems. The cost of tuition is constantly rising, many classes are being cut, and due to over population, many people cannot get into the classes they need. It is taking the majority of students over 4 years to graduate college.
Many of the colleges that they mentioned are the colleges that I have applied for, such as Cal Poly Pomona, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, San Diego State, and Fullerton. It’s a scary thought to think about how I am going to get through college in a timely matter, without having a trillion dollar dept. These budget cuts, and college choices are going to affect our future, and shape how our future will be. If many people are poorly educated, how will our country be able to function properly? Most of the working force that help help our economy grow were once students from CSU’s and UC’s. If the budget cuts affect many people, how will our country run with an uneducated staff?
The CSU cuts affect all of the people in my generation, especially me. How am I supposed to smoothly get through college without being able to afford classes and books, and how am I supposed to enroll in classes. I am already having a hard time just getting into a pe class at Cal Poly Pomona. People in college will have no room for fulling around in college, or else they will not get through college.
Although it may seem hard to get into college, or through college, on the positive side, many I-poly students have already been accepted to a number of colleges.
I believe that many of the students that have planned to attend college after high school will be affected by the whole budget cut. Many students have already chosen the CSU they wish to attend. I dont think that is fair because this cut isnt cutting your dream, i know it isnt cuttin mine, but its making it difficult for many people that want to advance in life. Hopefully they figure out a way to get the money so that we can have professional people in our future. I believe that its the governments issue and they should figure a way to fix this problem.
Ok so this is affecting the students going to school in California and out of state students that want to go to college in California. I for one I am going to school out of state or going to a private college. So this is not affecting me much. I mean I feel bad for some people that want to get into the UCs, CSUs, and community colleges. I was planning on going to go to a Community College but not anymore. I am definately sticking to Plan B and C.
The fact that the CSUs are cutting out the chance for so many kids to attend their schools is not fair at all. Our generation is the future of California. And the future won’t be very good seeing how our educations are being put on the line. The applications for CSUs have gone up 10% but there is a cut of $66million by midyear alone. That means that more and more students will not be able to attend the CSUs and must attend community colleges. Which causes the community colleges to have to turn away it’s regular students. The California budget should not be cutting education, instead they should be cutting things that do not matter like certain projects that won’t even effect us.
Is it just me, or does it seem like whenever the state needs to cut programs for money, they always involve education? Reading about how the CSU’s might have to cut back in enrollment by 10,000 is sad. I can’t believe that some people who have been doing everything right from the beginning, getting good grades, good behavior, won’t have the opportunity to go to college because of the economic crisis. Who would have thought in a million years that we would be at a point where an education would be denied to us, not because lack of knowledge or bad test scores, but because colleges don’t have enough money to accept you. It is a harsh reality and I am sure there are people out there that don’t even know about this. I wonder what kind of letters the kids who are denied enrollment are going to get. Sorry we wanted you to come but we don’t have enough money. Try again next year. As for me, I already got accepted into Cal Poly, as long as I keep up my grades. It is not my number one choice for school, though. I want to go to the University of La Verne, and according to my understanding, they actually are desperate for students. I am still not sure how this is going to affect private universities, so I don’t know what’s going through ULV’s mind right now. Let’s just wait and see what happens.
I agree with the editorial. It pretty much sums up what’s been going on. It also talks about the damage the state is doing by cutting the education department. Something has to be done, or someone has to be stopped. What happened to the California I used to love?
So the article says that California has the 8th largest economy in the world, which means we are rich right? Then why the hell are we in such a crisis in today’s economy. Everything is starting to go downhill in this century and it’s going to be a while until we are able to balance the economy again. 2 billion dollars are going to be cut from the elementary, middle, and high school systems on top of the 3 billion dollars from the K-12 system. I just don’t understand how we are the 8th largest economy in the world and we are in such a crisis. The article keeps stating how we can afford to not cut anything from education and still be fine. But if that’s true then why does Arnold keep insisting that cuts be made? It all just doesn’t make to much sense to me.
These budget cuts are going to affect me because the article states that there are going to be a significant amount of students who are going to be denied to colleges around California. If I’m trying to apply to one of those colleges, my chances of being accepted are just going to keep getting smaller. $66 billion dollars are going to be cut from the Cal State system and that affects me because I wanted to apply to a Cal state, but now that this crisis is happening I might have a lot of trouble in my future.
its really sad to hear all this stuff is happening. it sucks that as someone else said earlier we are seen as the dumest generation but how can we help it when we are being limited to our education. i dont understand how when something happens and they need to cut something they go straight to our education. i mean wouldnt you think that, thats the last thing they woukd go to because if i were them i would want this generation to succeed and learn as much as we can. that way in the future we can help get us out of all of this. because im still undecided i was planning on just going to a community college so this isnt really giong to affect me.. so i thought.. as i was thinking about it, it is going to affect me just becuase when they cut students from the csu’s and uc’s theyre going to go for their plan b which is probably community college so thats gonna mean those colleges are going to be packed as well. =/ but i dont know im just waiting to see what else theyre going to cut.. =/
Well what I learned is that I guess I’m going to have to try harder to get the things that I want. They really shouldn’t be taking so much money from education. I remember we did the California budget challenge and it had the option to start taking money from prisons. They’re spending $58,000 on criminals and only $5,900 on students. Someone needs to get their priorities straight. I didn’t know California had the 8th largest economy in the world. It sucks that kids in California are suffering and won’t be able to go to college. The article said that Washington doesn’t even have a state income and they’re still able to afford children’s education. When people voted for 1a they were just thinking about a cool train going for LA to San Francisco. I don’t think they were thinking about other things that the money could have been spent on. There were so many propositions that were asking to sell bonds to raise money for the projects and none of them had anything to do with education. I’m sure many people did not know that colleges would be cutting their enrollment by 10,000 when they were voting for these propositions. I bet if something were to be redone, people would vote for propositions to help out the education system. It never really came to light until now about colleges cutting their enrollment. Arnold really should be looking at other places to cut funds instead of cutting one of the most crucial aspects of California. I was reading one of the comments and someone was talking about how we have been spending a lot of money on higher education but the kind of higher education we are offering are not helping in the long run. We should be promoting things like engineering which will create advancements and keep the U.S. high up in the global economy. We need to start spending money on things like technological advancements that will bring revenue in. Basically the point they’re trying to make is life is unfair. You should always have some kind of backup plan. Things tend to happen that you cannot predict. This is where actual life comes in. If you do get accepted into a college it now becomes the survival of the fittest. If you really want to get into a class that you need it becomes what you’re willing to do so you don’t get stuck in some kind of class that just takes up space. Hopefully things won’t stay like this for long and future freshmen won’t have to over work themselves to get into a good college. Good thing I’m not white or Asian haha, hopefully colleges will need Mexicans to fill their college quota of races or whatever. Guess you have to take whatever advantages you can in this world. ?
That stupid question mark was supposed to be a smiley face:) and I hate how it doesnt cut it into the paragraphs I make ahhh
We all want to go to collage..but how can we if so many CSU’s are cutting the amount of students? I admit I’d prefer that they add a acceptance cap instead of increasing the class sizes like they have in the past though since most students and teachers hate an overcrowded class room, it just makes everything slower and less efficient. I’m really worried about community collages however..I myself am planning on attendending a community for two years in order to save money..I’m not even sure if it’d be worth it any more since some classes will be cut and the few important ones will just be expanding. It’s really frustrating hearing all these adults bitching and complaining about the economy when it is actually thier generations fault..its even scarier since they’ve raised thier kids into that state of mind similar to thier’s that led to this difficult situation were in in the first place! It will definately take a lot of change to get us out of this big hole we’ve seem to have dug ourselfs into..but hopefully we’ll be able to manage. Crowded classrooms? bad teachers? Bad govenators? dang..at this rate we all mine as well move to Canada!
yeah..i said govenator..
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This year has been one of the most worrisome out of my four years at I-Poly, and were not even halfway through yet. I had always thought of getting into college a for sure thing, and that thought was supported by my family, who made me feel that it was highly possible. But reading the article gave me a reality check. I might not go to college. 10,000 students will not be attending the CSU of their choice, and I might be one of them. Some campuses are increasing their acadenic restrictions, such as higher test scores and GPAs. But another part of me thinks, maybe this is a good thing. It will possibly cause students to work harder and excel to achieve academic goals. Or were just screwed.
What angered me the most was the inefficient way the state is spending our money, with useless props passing and the issue of paying more for prisons than our education. What is more important, the upkeep of prisoners or the education of our future? And with the state’s budget predicted to rise to $24 billion by 2010, the problems don’t seem to be getting solved.
Woah. i guess this an excuse not to go to school for some people…. it is really unfortunate that this happening since this happening would mean that many qualified student will be turned away but then again arent there like 13 csu’s? you don’t get into one try for another. Heck apply to all of the csu’s (just like me) :]
i agree with cheyne i am moving to CANADA!!!!
the amount of people that are going to be getting accepted into colleges in California are going to very limited now because of the the budget cuts on the csu colleges.the classes are bring over crowded. its going to make it harder on us to get into colleges in California. its basically going to force us to go to out of state colleges if we even Want to go to college. this is going to make it hard on people because what if they don’t want to go out of state or you could go to a community college. colleges are going to be cutting 250,000 of current students. tuition is constantly rising. so once youre in college you’re going to be having a hard time keeping up with the bills along with the rising academic standards. classes are being cut because of the over population. so people cant even get the classes that they need.
i dont know where im going to college but at least i know what i can apply to seeing as how the rest of them have been made harder to get in to.
I think this is the one of scariest things I have to go through, knowing that I might not get accepted to my choices of CSU’s. Due to the economy sinking so low that they have to start taking funds from the education programs. There are many reasons why this relates, and there is also many ways this is going to affect me. One of the reasons why this relates to me is because the article said that the lower and middle class are going to hit rock bottom, and my family and I are in the middles class section. And a example on how this affects me is because my choice of colleges were Cal State Fullerton and Cal Poly Pomona. And these are the colleges that are being more affected. Hopefully this gets better soon, because if it doesn’t it is going to take many opportunities away from students.
So this whole crisis thing is kind of scaring me. I had heard that the economy was really bad but i never thought they would have cuts on higher education. I feel that higher education is one of the most important things in this country. We used to be one of the most powerful countries in the world and it was all because of higher education. Now i hear that they are cutting the number of acceptance to incoming freshmen by 10,000.
Now this is really affecting me this year. I applied to a few CSU’s this year. I applied the first day that we could. At the time i had not taken my SATs yet. In the section for the scores i put pending. Later on when i took my SATs i got my scores. I didnt know i had to send them myself to the colleges. I thought it was automatically done. So now about a week before the deadline, i find out my best friend got his acceptance letter to the college we both want to go to. I go online and check my app status and it tells me its incomplete. So i freaked out because even though i now had to pay to rush my scores in, there is a really small chance that ill even get accepted into any college.
Its a really shitty feeling knowing that you and your best friend were planning on going to the same college. Now he got accepted and I’m happy for him. But the feeling that i might not get into any CSU kills me on the inside.
I really dont have anything against people who go to Mt. Sac. People graduate from there and have successful careers. But for me personally, Mt. Sac is failure. I really wish with all my heart that i dont end up in Mt. Sac. Ive had family go there with plans of transferring to a UC or CSU and can you ask me where they all ended up? They dropped out “temporarily”, or in other words, quit school. The thought of even going to Mt. Sac makes me want to quit school. My whole high school life I’ve felt really strong about this. Now for a simple stupid mistake i might end up where I never wanted to go.
This is one crisis or maybe the only crisis that has directly affected me.
I find it hard to believe that people are paying more attention and are more worried about the present than they are about the future. What I mean is that I can’t believe that people would want to spend more money and raise taxes to build public and transportation projects and spend money on prisons rather than rebuild our already weak and suffering school system. By doing this people are thinking too much about our present rather than focusing out thoughts on our future. Every student that makes up the school system now will make up part of our future later, as a nation. However, if we continue to focus too much on our present than we leave no room for our future and by making all of the budget cuts in schools that we are planning to make we are throwing away all of our chances in surviving this economic crisis in the future. For the first time in history, the CSU system is thinking about turning away qualified students because of this financial crisis. We need to refocus our thoughts and include the future, which lies in the school systems.
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okay, so we have a problem. we have a BIG problem. 10,000 students that wanted to go to college, specifically CSU’s are no longer going. my first reaction to this was just sadness. not for myself, because as the moment i have no plans for college, but for others. As hannah said, it might be a good thing since we put way too much emphasis on education and don’t realize that college only gets us so far. but at the same time, this will prohibit some from accomplishing their dreams.
so you don’t neccessarily need a degree to be a writer or an artist, but what about those people who want to be lawyers or doctors or psychologists? what about the people who have worked hard in school thinking that they would get the same chance at higher education?
the fact is, things are going to be getting worse. i don’t care what kind of plan you have or what idealistic theory you’ve harbored, things are going down hill and will continue on down.
But there is something that people havn’t realized yet.
you have 10,000 students that are not going to their CSU of choice. they are qualified to get in which means that their application and resume is more than proficient. where are all these students going to attend now? they are going to be going to all the other schools. the state schools, the private colleges, even the community colleges if necessary. this means that ALL the schools are going to be overcrowded and see an increase of students turned away. and for those in the hopes of just sliding by in high school, going to a community college and everything being fine and dandy… think again. there will now be 10,000 students with a resume for the CSU system. do you think the colleges are going to accept those that ahcieved or those that just slid by?
these are things that people need to be thinking about.. availablity of everything is becoming scarce. schools, jobs, money, you name it, our society needs it.
i personally am not planning on going to college any time soon, but for those that have hopes of persueing it, think very carefully on how you spend your senior year and what colleges you apply to. if you don’t, you may just become 1 of 10,000 californian students who are disappointed and wondering “what do i do now?”
Well first of all the state should not cut the budget on our education. Education is our first priority if we want to succeed in our lives. It is not fair that the colleges should raise the academic bar for incoming freshmen and will push up application deadlines. It is not fair for us students to pay this price. It is our dream to go to college now its all ruin and some of us students won’t be able to go to college because of the budget. The amount of students entering college has dropped dramatically. In my perspective it shouldn’t be us that we are paying this much because of the governor’s fault I think it should be him that has to pay for all of this. Some student might not apply for financial help and won’t be able to get help from FAFSA because of their grades or some other issue.
Ok so i learned that the future is not as bright as my 4th grade teacher told me. So my whole life people said how there are all these opportunities, and there are but it’s still gonna be a bit harder. It sucks for people who really wanted to go to a CSU and now they wont. Not to mention the fact that even students already attending will be having a hard time getting a class.
For me nothing has changed. I applied to all privates and to Cal Poly but I am really not that worried. The only thing that changes for me is that maybe there is more competition for private colleges but it’s ok. I have back up plans
During our economic crisis, everything is going to take a hit. Now, the Cal State system is having to cut from their enrollment. What really sucks is that us, the high school graduates, are going to “bear the brunt” of this cut. The article made a good point that we have been told all of our lives that if we work hard, pay attention in school, and really try to succeed, that we will have so many opportunities open to us. We still have opportunities, but now they are limited. We still have options, but now they are even costlier than before. The economic crisis is just a viscious cycle. One aspect of that cycle is that our “future”, the enrolling college students, need a higher education to be able to get the economy back to a reasonable state, but now because of our need for a better economy, higher education is limited and harder to achieve.
I honestly think that the situation that we’re in is a horrible one, not because of the fact that we have to cut funding from both the UC’s and the CSU’s considering that we are going to be the group that has to bear the brunt of this massive budget cut. But one of the things that makes this situation is worst is that the taxpayers of Califorina want to have their cake and eat it too. They essentially want the next generation of Californians to have a top-notch edcuation, but at the same time, they do not want to pay the taxes that allow those kids to have a better chance at that edcuation. So even though the saddening loss of edcuation will affect our generation, it is up to the generations before us to help ensure that our futures are filled with opportunities and our edcuation gives us the proper tools in order to fufill those opportunities when they are presented to us. Because I honestly think that since CSU’s and UC’s are cutting freshman positions and making it more difficult to get student loans or scholarships, it is going to make college life much harder to succeed, and make life in general much harder to become a succees in, but the whole point of life is to overcome the trials and tribulations that are presented to you in life, in order to become a succees.
Within the last couple of weeks I have been seeing a lot of published works, such as articles, in the LA times about CSUs and UCs prices rising and enrollment acceptances being dramatically cut.
The CSU schools will apparently raise their prices at least 10%. This affects me very much, as does it any other teen planning to go to college. My plan was to attend a JC and transfer after my second year. At this rate, being able to transfer is going to be difficult, sees how I probably won’t have enought money to actually pay my way through college.
Luckily, for someone like myself, transfer students are more likely to get chosen over new students… but the fact that the colleges are accepting a LOT less people, I’m a bit worried.
Here I come Australia :]!
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The revisions made to the CSU system came as a shock to me. I was surprised by how fast the changes the econmy are taking on the society are astounding. I am saddened by the state of the economy but I still feel a level of thankfulness because know that the graduating classes under me will have it way worse. I am also thankful because I dont plan on attending a school in the CSU system, I plan on going to an out of state private school.
The main thing I am woried about is the reduction of financial aid available. As you know my sister and I are twins and we both entend on going to college which means that leavs two bills for my house hold to cover. Over the last couple weeks I have realized the saverity of this financial crisis and it scares me, itr scar4es me everyday to wake up knowing that the world will never be he same. It is not change im scared; what i’s scared of is the world my chilren will have to live in.
When I read about what Arnold S. plan was I was so angry and i still am! Why would he want to cut for the education systems thats barbaric. Education is the beginning of the worlds solution. The world has to be educated to be successful, to be “ruled with an iron fist” so to say.
I am really angry to know that he wants to cut $66 million from the colleges and universities, and that the colleges/universities have to cut thousands of qualified applicants. To know that the schools have to increase the tuition by 10% is outrageous. the school systems have already suffered a dramatic cut and now there’s going to be another one.
Does he really think by cutting more than 100 billion dollars will really help our economy? No its not.
WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!! California is in a crisis and these cuts are supposably suppose to be helping the state. But instead they are making matters worst. As the reading said the usual addmitence to CSU’s easch year for freshmen ranges from 45 to 50,000. But now they are dropping 10,000 of the students enrollment. This is a tough situation for people that do not have as much money. Some of the cuts being made are also directed to not only CSU’s but also elementarty, middle, and high schools. Our governer is planning to make about 2 billion dollars in cuts. California has always been known for the Great schools, colleges, Universities, etc. Many skilled people known today have came from these California schools. And now, there are going to be many unfortunate students that will be dropped from their enrollment due to the cuts being made. I doubt there are many people who support the decisions being made. But I am sure that in the governments perspective it all makes perfect sence. We just have to Stay strong and find another way into success. DONT GIVE UP CALI !!!
Wow. First of all I would like to say that this is really stupid. People already say that our generation is the dumbest and most lazy and they are cutting school budgets. What are we supposed to do if all of our lives we have been working hard and it is all thrown away? All that hard work for nothing? Really? Why don’t they just take money out from somewhere else? Or make fundraisers? Or what are we supposed to do if the job we want to major in isn’t in our local college? Well I guess I lucked out since I am a DJ on the side, but not everyone has something to do. The times are changing. Even a minimum wage job is hard to get now. I have a feeling we are just going to go into a big depressing. To be honest I do not know why these big cuts are happening but I do know that we do not even have a school, and that is not fair. We will never get to experience the high school atmosphere even though we go to high school, and we might not get to experience the college one either….
WOW..
I feel that taking money away from any kind of educational programs, especially from elementary schools, high shools, colleges AND universities is wrong. PERIOD. It is hurting everyone who has dreams about going further with their education. There are tons of families out there that are going through a financial crisis and this is just adding more pressure. This will definatley have an affect on the upcoming freshman.
Arnold Schwarzenegger in my opinion is making things a lot, lot worse.. and i’m sure i speak on behalf of a lot of students. Taking money from our schools, is giving us the disadvantage to learn at the BEST of our abilities. >=[
I think its absolutely ridiculous that California has the 8th largest economy in the world and we don’t provide its citizens with more opportunities to get a college education. We should try to find other places to make budget cuts. Yeah it sucks and no one wants to make budget cuts but we have to fix this somehow and thats how we’re going to go about doing it. It sucks even more that the working and middle class are going to be hit the hardest especially since most financial aid goes to them. Its unfair that now they might not be able to go to college because of the overspending earlier generations did. Now we have to pay for it. This will affect me because I rely on financial aid to help me pay for my college. Now people my age are going to have to take out more college loans and be in more debt after college. I think we should cut from other places not education.
I understand that california is in a big crisis right not but its really sad that we are now left with having to cut money from education. I mean its hard enough for people to get into to a good college its now going to be even harder and they are going to have to pay more with money that they dont have.Its sad to say that more people are going to be turned down from colleges. I mean we shouldn’t have to resort to cutting education because its one of the most important things that everyone needs to better themselves and have a good life with a good education and now some people won’t be able to have that because of the issue of money and cuts.
It is ok to take on debt as long as it is an investment that you plan to make every effort to complete (e.g. tutor for math, read on a regular basis, etc). Your financial letter will include:
(1) Grants (free money, if you qualify)
(2) Subsidized loans (which means the federal government will pay your monthly interest until 6 months after you graduate from your last degree)
(3) Unsubsidized loans (you pay the interest monthly immediately)
http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/
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When i hear about things like this happening, just as i am about to graduate high school, it gets me mad. Budget cuts should not be made toward education. We are the future of this country and our education is in jepordy. I know that money has to be taken out if somewhere but taking it from education will be a bad idea. How is this country suppost to prosper in the future with a bunch off uneducated adult leading it, just because people couldnt afford a higher education. Things in this country are getter worse by the minute and government official are not thinking of the long term affect of these cut, and that kind of thinking is what go us in this mess in the first place….well peace out.
I learned the State Schools would have to cut enrollment because of the budget crisis we’re in. I feel so bad. State schools were supposed to be schools that have passing curriculum that the public could get into if Private schooling was an issue( IDEALLY). Now they are hard to get into. It’s crazy and totally unfair. They are making it extremly impossible for regular common people to succed in society.
This just makes it harder and builds up the competition for us and next generations to get into college, like it wasn’t already very competitive. CSUs are planning to cut/decrease their enrollment by 10,000 students. At first when I heard about this budget cut from the news I was like no way, the government can spend a ton of money on other things like building a train system but not helping education. Any of us could be the ones they cut. I applied to many CSU’s and I hope that I am not one of people they cut. By cutting students from CSUs, community colleges would be pretty packed making it harder to get into those classes. I think this whole thing is crazy and the government needs to get their priorities straight.
My feelings about the cut are extremely bitter sweet.
From one perspective it is widening the gap between the rich and the poor by causing only those with the best grades, test scores, and need the least amount of financial aid (generally those in higher income brackets) to get the opportunity of having higher education. Then if those in the lower classes do not get into one of the ‘almighty universities’, they miss the chance to get their foot in that door of opportunity. As a result, once again minorities get low paying, low skill required jobs. Meanwhile those in higher classes obtain their golden ticket education and their red carpet treatment.
On the flip side, this large cut-back is going to make obtaining a college education harder to get and more impressing to have thus raising its value. Ten years ago, a college education was fairly uncommon and highly valued. More recently, degrees became highly more expected, and frankly, things had gotten to a point where it was uncommon NOT to have one when trying to get a ‘good’ job, that years ago one would have been qualified enough for with only a high school diploma. With these new limitations, the value of a diploma may sore thus balancing things back out again.
So, from what i read in the article, it seems the UC’s need to make some cuts, so they are going to need to have to deny access to several students. This affects me directly because I plan to going to a UC. and even if i dont end up going to a UC the students that dont get accepted have to go somewhere else so there is going to be more competition
Ever since the economy started heading downhill everyone become more aware of what is going on. In the recent weeks, we have found out Arnold’s plan to cut many educational funds to colleges. WE are in such a great debt that, school was the only thing he could think of cutting. Well by cutting funds to the california college systems he has just declined thousands of students dreams.He Should give some of his hundreds of millions to help fix the devastation that he caused to the states econmoy.
As for myself im very concerned. I applide to both CSU’s and UC’s. Either way all the money that i need isn’t there. NBow my chances of getting into any college have been limited. Each year all the colleges have a certain amount of applicantion that they accept. Now because of what our govenor decided to do, all have been cut by 10,000!If that isn’t shocking or devastating i don’t know what is.To know that the schools have to increase the tuition by 10% is outrageous. the school systems have already suffered a dramatic cut and now there’s going to be another one.
As a senior in high school im scared to find the outcome of this decision.