Proposition 4: Waiting Period and Parent Notification of Abortion (Sarah’s Law)
68 Comments Published by clay October 4th, 2008 in State and Local Politics.This the third attempt to pass this using the initiative process. Would you vote yes or no? Explain why.
When I first saw that this law could lower abortion I was all for it. Now I am split.Sarah’s law sounds very good on paper and to me would be a good idea if we live in a perfect world. As good as a notification to parents about their teens getting an abortion sounds, it isn’t all that great. You have to take in to consideration that not all teens have good relationships with their parents, me speaking from personal experience. Teens who not only grow up without trust towards their parents but also with the fear of being a disappointment, would take very risky alternatives to avoid these conflicts. Some of these alternatives being back alley abortions and/or suicide put teens in a much more dangerous situation.
As much as i would like to think that a parent knowing that their teen is pregnant and trying to abort, would make difference, I highly doubt it will. No matter what in the end it isn’t the decision of the parent but of the teen. Parents will be only notified but not given the right to choose for their own daughters. Also, when it comes to the thought of violent parents this notification would only make things worse. In the end abortions will keep happening whether i am against them or not and so this law is only really an invasion of privacy towards teenage girls.
I would vote yes.
First and foremost, I think that any teen who makes the decision to have sex should be aware of the consequences and know that by having sex you are in putting yourself in a position of possibly having a baby. After all, that’s the main reason of sex, to reproduce. I think that any teen who accepts that responsibilty should accept their mistake and deal with the consequences.
Secondly, most teens do not have a good relationship with their parents, fortunately i do so i do not know the other side of the story, but i would imagine that if i myself could not tell my parents that i would hope someone else did. That way they would be able to help me support the child, so that i would be able to continue going to school.
The Prop says that if the child has a reason( scared of sexual, physical or emotional abuse) on why their parents shouldn’t be notified that they may request a waiver from the judge, but the court would have to call CPS, which may be either a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. They do not necessarily have to go to a foster home, but can go to another family relative.
The Teens parents should have the right to know being that they are a minor and do not necessarily know what is good and what is not and with telling their parents, willingly or unwillingly, their parents can help them make the right decision for them.
Either way i do not think that abortion is right because it was their decision in the first place and they knew the possible consequences, so they should have to accept the responsibilities that come with it.
Absolutely not.
I hope this law doesn’t gets passed in California. I’m pro-choice.
Wait, let me rephrase; I’m pro-making the RIGHT choice.
Now let me explain:
Teens today are going to have sex. The average teen loses their virginity at 15 according to Cancino, and I’m pretty sure not much has changed over the past three years. If you can’t trust a teenager to put on a condom the right way, what makes you think that a teenager will be able to care for a baby? A screaming, crying, kicking, wake-you-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night newborn baby. Add to this that not all parents are as accepting as mine, and some may even kick them out. And then who is this pregnant GIRL going to turn to? Her boyfriend who helped her get pregnant in the first place? Uhm, in most cases I don’t think so. When it comes down to it, boys would rather have their girlfriends get an abortion rather than take responsibility along side them.
Another reason I’m opposed to this proposition is because the physician would have to notify a parent/guardian within 48 hours. Abortions need to be done quickly and efficiently. If its at the end of a woman’s first trimester, and the parents/guardian need to be notified two days in advance, that could make or break how late the abortion could be.
Earlier I said that I’m pro-making the right choice. I say this because personally, if I were to end up in this kind of situation, I sincerely believe that I would end up keeping the child. I have a strong foundation to lean on [ie. my mother]. But for other girls, who aren’t ready, I don’t believe that they should keep it if they don’t want it. These girls, these children, don’t need to be raising more children when they haven’t even grown up yet themselves. Imagine how much more messed up the child they bring into this world will be?
To finish, it’s the girl’s choice whether or not she decides to keep it and her reasons behind keeping the baby or not. At the end of the day, its her body, her baby, her decision. Nobody else.
[Another reason why I'm pro-making the right choice, even though this is a little irrelevant-- Say for example, a woman in the hospital is at the end of her first trimester or so and the doctor finds complications. Either with the fetus, the mother, or a minor defect that could harm both mother and child in the future. You are given two choices: a) keep the baby and wait to find out what happens while putting the mother at high risk for miscarriage, stillbirth, as well as the mother's life in danger OR b) abort the fetus. As sad as it is, I would choose the mother's life over the fetus'.]
Besides, this is the third time Californians have tried to get this law to pass. This is a liberal state. It won’t.
At first, I though this idea sounded great. I figured that if teens were going to have sex (which they do), then they should be responsible for their own choices. They should be aware of the consequenses that come along, and their parents should be aware of what it happening in their childs life. But unfortunatly, most teens do not have a great relationship with their parents, and that also comes with many consequenses.
As most teens says these day, “It just happens.” Sex just happens and the society has made sex seem like it is no big deal. Sex sex sex. Since children dont have the greatest or most suppportive relationship with their parentals, telling the parents will just make everything more complicated. The teen will have war with their parents, which may just lead the teen to retreat to more waorse situations. So many things in the picture dont fit together.
So, I vote NO! If teens are having abortions, then they probably have enough problems on their hands, and informing the parents would just add on to the complications.
p.s. there is probably a reason this law has not passed the first time.
So this proposition is pretty interesting and would be able to make a difference because its something that affects so many teens in our generation by so much.
But after seeing what this preopostion is about im kinda still deciding because i can see both point of views of this prop. Although im on more on the “VOTE NO” for this prop. But after knowing that sex has been a big part of todays world, because teens go around and have sex, but of course they should be careful and take notice with the different consequences that they possibly can deal with. If they are responsible enough to notice their actions I’m pretty sure teens are responsible enough to take care of their actions and are able to choose what they want to do with their lives, no matter what the affect is.
I think that if a teen gets into this whole sex situation and something happens, it probably wasnt planned to happen this way or was an accident or whatever, so i think that they have the right of privacy and choice of what they want to do with the consequences. If something were to happen to this couple after sex they can choose if they are able to handle this situation or they cant, if they believe they arent ready i think they can choose to go with abortion.
Also some teens dont have the good relationship with their parents/gaurdians, as mentioned earlier, so it may change the way the situation is handled. It can cause different complications to the teen and put them under stress with their parents and situation, and then on the other hand theyre pregnant and still worrying about that which makes them so worried/stressed/scared for their situation and ofcourse they would want more privacy than a higher stress level.
Honestly I dont really care. I think the women would have more to talk about than me. I would vote yes if anything. I think parentshave a right to know what is going on with their kids. I know most kids are always trying to get out on their own but parents are everything to teenagers whether r=they want to admitt it or not . I think its the choice of the woman to get the abortion, but I would have to say that abortions can ruin a womans life or cuase serious stress. I just think that parents are very concerened with their childrens lives, and if in the future it happened to your kids you would want to know.
So at the end of the day, abortion is a topic that I’m not to concerned with. Women have the right to be able to decide whether or not they want to have a child or not.
I am not a girl so my perspective on this issue is probably a little different. If I say anything that might offend any girls reading this, I am sorry, this is just my opinion. I would vote yes on this proposition. I do not believe that killing an innocent soul,(yes it has a soul already), is justified by any means. If a teen is thinking about having an abortion, they need someone to stop them and talk the matter over a little. True parents may not always be understanding, but at least they should have an opportunity to think over your decision and give you their opinion. Plus, you do not have to raise the child yourself. Adoption is a wonderful practice that can give the child a loving home with someone a bit more responsible. Some might say this is not a very fair law. Well, all I have to say to that is, IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT FOR HAVING SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF YOU DID’NT WANT TO HAVE A CHILD, YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN BETTER PROTECTION. Sorry, sometimes I just need to shout what is on my mind. Well anyway, even if you had no choice in the matter of having sex(rape), you could still give the baby to another family to care for. I am sure that your parents would be more than understanding if this was the case. So what I am trying to say is that parents need to know so as to ensure that you do not do something that you might regret for the rest of your life.
Well this would be a tough one for a guy to answer but at least it doesn’t ask if your pro choice or not. Having the doctors notify the parents of the abortion would be the logical thing to do, but do we want to base are view of this prob on emotional status or do we want to look at as the right thing to do. I would want my parents to know i aborted a child even if we have a good relation ship. Other kids today fear their parents and do not have that trust bond. Abortion is necessary (sometimes) im ean is till think it is wrong but some of us are not ready and make stupid decisions or we are forced in to and abortion is the only alternative that girls find. Some can say yhea ill have and give it to a family but they dont realize how painfull it will be in the long run to grow older knowing you have a child that rightfully yours and that he or she will never know you are their reall parent.
I would vote yes.
Teens have sex. PRETEENS have sex. KIDS even have sex.
I beleive that if you’re underage and having sex, you need to be aware and willing to deal with the consequences. If a girl doesnt want to deal with her parents knowing about a possible abortion, then she shouldnt be having sex in the first place.
Prop 4 also addresses that if it isn’t passed, then child predatores, statutory rapists, etc. will be more likly to get away with their crimes. Telling a parent is safer and easier. Parents can get involved and see what the situation is.
And there are probably more teens with UNsupportive parenst than those with supportive parenst. Many of these girls fear that they will get kicked out etc. The Prop doesnt say that the abortionist has to inform the mother or father of the girl. It could be any family member. A sister, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. And if that doesnt work out, there is that waiver from the judge.
In conclusion, abortion should NOT be legal and sex is DISGUSTING.
I see many different responses to this and all the arguments and rebuttals that can be made. most of them anyway. So the issue is abortion and whether or not the parents should be notified. now the main issue with this is that parents may not be accepting and will hurt, mistreat, or “kick out” the daughter from the home. is that the issue? or is it the fact that parents would kick out their own daughter? how do we fix that issue?
yes i would vote on proposition 4 and pray for the best.
the parents also have a right to know. true it is the child’s choice but the child is still a minor. under 18. that means you are still under the regulations of those laws of age and are accountable to them. whether or not the right to have sex is your choice, you still are withheld in the minor’s laws. if you get pregnant, this proposition declares you receive the treatment of a minor. your parents are notified. our day and age is so rebellious and focused on freedom of choice. but we have to respect authority. this proposition enforces the authority to our parents. its not something that should be written and enforced by law. its a fundamental rule of life as a child.
if your going to have sex then wait till after 18. my personal belief is to wait till your married. but if you CHOOSE other wise, respect the authority you are under as it will save time and energy spent in resistance. if rape is the case, notification may be the best step into recovery. help is needed after such an attack. most rapes go undocumented and unspoken. this may be a way to prevent such silence of injustice. or is scilence our choice?
At first when i thought of kids telling their parents that their going to have an abortion, i agreed. Because if your having sex, your basically trying to make a baby, right? That’s what happens. Now a days teens have sex just because. Some teens have it WAY too early in life. But if you wanna start having sex then it comes with the responsibility and consequences.
I was all for letting the parents know if their child was having an abortion. Kids mess up, in common in the world we live in.
Then i thought and have decided to vote NO! Teens go through so much, they have the stress of school, and getting a job, and friend and family issues and even boyfriend/girlfriend problems. If a teen gets pregnant that already adds 100 times more stress, because obviously they are not ready for a baby!
I have known girls that have gotten pregnant, then tell their parents because they didn’t know what to do, and it seemed like the right thing to do. Then their parents toally abandon them. If you think about it, if YOU had a daughter and she came to you and told you she was pregnant what would you do?
It’s hard enough teenagers just getting along with their parents, and i have never known a teen who told their parents that their having sex.
I say if teens get pregnant and want to have an abortion and don’t want to tell their parents then that’s their choice. They will have to come up with other solutions on getting the abortion then, because their not going to be cheap. You also have to think about your body. If you are the type of girl who never learns her lesson and has abortions over and over, what do you think that’s doing to your body? There’s only so many times when you can have baby, then get rid of it. When the time comes when you ACTUALLY want to have kids, you maybe wont be able to.
I don’t know this is a hard one, for one I thing it would be a good thing for the parents to know, if not for a better reason than for the kids to think about what they are doing. I’m thinking something along the lines of:(girl thinking) if I abort my parents have to know and I don’t want them to know so I’ve thought about it and I vote no I wont have sex [this is just wishful thiking by the way].In the other hand it should be the choice of whoever wants to abort. Sometimes the situation the girl is in is not the best to bring a baby to the world. Then there wouldn’t just be one person to take care of but two.
I think that if I had to vote I would say no on this proposition.
I’m kindda unsure about what i would vote for. I could see both sides of this proposition, but i think that I’m more towards no. People SHOULD tell their parents and should be aware of what they’re doing, but it’s not always their fault that their sex partner gets pregnant or they get pregnant. You have your own rights, and should be able to get rid of your baby without telling people. Some peoples parents think that their kids are all goody, and if all of a sudden their kids pregnant then it will ruin families. This is why i believe that you should be able to do it in secret. I don’t recommend keeping it from your parents, but if it comes down to it and you have to, then do it. So i am a definite a no for proposition 4, but this argument made me see both sides clearly.
Prop 4 (aka Sarah’s Law) is the initiative would prohibit abortion for minors under 18 until 48 hours after physician notifies minor’s parent, legal guardian or, if parental abuse has been reported, an alternative adult family member.
I believe that the minor should a have a choice if they should tell the parent or not because it’s the minor’s body not the parent. There are some scenarios where they can’t tell any of the relative because abuse might occur worst or even the minor might die because of the notifications about the abortion. Which is my biggest concern. Most parents would of like to know about the child but there some cases they just can’t say.
From what I just said you can conclude that I say NO to Prop 4.
~J.P.
I was reading up a bit more on this topic and saw that it stated, “Permits courts to waive notice based on clear and convincing evidence of minor’s maturity or best interests.”
Who are they to choose the mothers best interest? Personally I believe if you are having sex then you should be taking birth control and be safe about it. However if you do get pregnant, then it is YOUR choice of what YOU feel is right to do. No one should have a say in that but YOU. I’m all up for letting your parents know because honestly is always a good way to go, but you should do it on your own. It should not be a part of our constitution. That’s just invading our privacy even more. Also, did anyone take into consideration…. what if the mothers parents are abusive? What is they are very religious? She could lose her home and family.
As for taking responsibility, people take birth control. It’s free at Planned Parenthood. It’s not like you don’t have options. Also, having an abortion IS taking responsibility. Because taking responsibility is doing something about it right? Yeah.
Obviously I’m pro-making the RIGHT choice as Hannah put it. If a teen doesn’t want to tell their parents they shouldn’t have to, because if this law gets passed and they don’t want to tell their parents… we’re just going to find more dead teens behind dumpsters from failed back alley abortions.
I would vote no on this proposition.
I know that there are consequenses for all of our actions, including getting pregnant, but I believe every girl should have the right to choose the outcome of her future. I would vote no on this proposition mainly because I fear for the girls who live in abusive homes, and really have no one that will support them. If this proposition does pass, I think that type of abusive environment will be bad for the pregnant girls, but also their child. If a girl is really not ready to be a mom, and really doesn’t want to go through with the pregancy I think it should be her choice if she does.
I feel really strongly against this proposition because I know about some of these kinds of girls stories. My mom works at the “Having a Healthy Baby” Program at Pomona Valley Hospital and she works with a number of high school girls throughout their pregnancies. Some of the girls she sees get kicked out of their homes without even finishing high school and have to find a way to support a child. Others come from abused homes and have to try and find a way to make it on their own. The bottom line is they weren’t ready to be parents, and not only are they paying for it but so is their child, they should be given the right to choose over things this important and it should be solely their choice. In the end it is the girl’s life. In a perfect world every girl would consult her parents when thinking about getting an abortion, but not everyone has parents that would still be there for them if they were pregnant.
ok so this prop had me a little torn, i for one used to think that no one no matter how old should be able to have an abortion, but then i got to thinking if i was in that position I would have no clue what to do. but as far as the parents having to know about it i think that is totally wrong. If the girl would like to let her parents know that is her own choice.
As far as people saying that the parents need to know i think it will just bring a bigger burden on the girl. I mean just knowing that you took the life of your un- born child is enough
The are lots of positive things and also a lot of negative things that come along with it. I think I would have to say though that I would not vote for proposition 4. I think that it should be completely up to the girl whether she wants to have an abortion or keep the child. As other people have mentioned already, most teens don’t get along with their teens already and this would definetly make matters much worst. Especially for the reason that parents are old fashioned anyway and our generation is much more ahead in almost every aspect then their generation was. So in other words, the majority of the parents wouldn’t be comprehensive anyway. If this propositions purpose is to stop teens from having sex and make them think twice about their actions, it is not going to work. Teens are going to have sex anyway and there is nothing the government can do to make it stop. Also, I don’t think that it would not prevent sexual predators much from harming teens because they will do it anyway. I also agree with Dylan, it is enough already for a girl to know that she killed her own baby and to also have to deal with her parents is more than enough.
I am against proposition 4.
I honestly think that the issue of abortion (pro-life), (pro-choice) is an enormous issuee that can never be solved, let alone the issues of teenage sexual activity. But honestly I think that everyone knows that more and more teenagers and even preteens and sadly even kids have sex, so I believe that when you are 20 years old having a kid scares the hell out of you, let alone hearing that you’re going to have a kid at 16. So I would have to vote no on prop 4 because I know that there is no teenager ready to have a child, even though people believe that they are able to deal with kids, but there is no way to deal with the harsh reality of being a teenage with a baby, and I believe that if kids would have to ask their parents to sign consent for an abortion, most parents would kick thier kids out of the house or not even sign the consentual agreement for the abortion. And I know if any of these things would happen to most teenagers they would be left with two choices: either have the child and resent their birth and hate them for messing up your plans in life, or use a self abortion method or even go to a “back-alley” abortionist or even go to Mexico for abortions. And after a child has an abortion, it is a liflong reminder of a mistake that made you take a human life away from this planet, and I think that is enough to spur a change in a teenager’s life. Even though I don’t condone abortions I know what a teenager is willing to do, to regain the normality in their lives and that is why I would vote no on prop 4.
i vote no for proposition 4 because it puts teens in danger. The reason why it puts teens in danger because i teens get pregnant they are forced to tell there parents that there pregnant. This puts teens in danger because there going to be scared to tell there parents and this could lead to running away from home or maybe even taking drugs to try to loose the baby. Parents know a day try to be all over there kids lies but there supposed to be communication so kids could talk to there parents about private things and not everyone has that communication. So if I could vote I would vote NO on proposition 4.
I am not against or for abortion, but in any case i would vote yes on this proposition. I believe that the parents of a pregnant teenager should be notified if their daughter is trying to get an abortion. This has helped out in other states to reduce the number of pregnancies. I believe it should pass because abortion can lead to health problems and mental problems and if a parent is not there to support their daughter, than it can have a huge effect on their daughter’s life. Proposition 4 should pass and because it is the right thing.
I do not think that they should pass proposition 4. I know most people think it is messed up to get an abortion. But what they don’t think about is how the baby is going to grow up. The family might struggle their whole life if they have a baby at an early age. Some parents might also force the child to have their baby because they do not believe in abortions. This subject really confuses me because you could twist it up in so many ways making it sound good and bad. I don’t think we are ready to make a decision like this for everyone. They should just leave it alone.
At first when I started writing this blog, I was all for proposition 4 but as I thought more about it and did more research, I realized that it’s not all that great. Even though kids, pre-teens, and teenagers that choose to have sex should know the consequences and have to live up to them, some teens just don’t have a good relationship with their parents. Notifying their parents could make everything more stressful for them. I do think that it is better that you discuss it with your parents, which I would do if I was in this situation, before getting an abortion because they could be helpful or even take you themselves to get it, but it should be your choice. If you feel comfortable telling your parents then do it but if you do not, for any reason, then you should have the choice not to. Also, it should be the individual’s choice if they want to keep the baby or not. The parents aren’t the ones that are going to be carrying the baby for about 9
months. So, I would vote NO on proposition 4.
I would vote yes on Proposition 4.
Teenagers are having sex period and alot of them dont accept the consequences. We always feel invincible like it could never happen to us. But unfortunately it can. I think this proposition would give them a better view of the consequences. Since they always feel like they can get away with anything this would make them think about it twice since now their parents would find out for sure!
I guess in a way it could push teens to do something worse but seriously they would rather risk their life than to try and talk something out with their parents. This is exactly why they shouldn’t be having sex in the first place. They’re no responsible enough to handle the consequences nor be mature enough to talk with their parents. Yes women have the right to do with themselves what they want but as long as you’re a minor you’re under your parents care and THEY have the right to know hat you’re doing and try to help you out with it.So in conclusion as long as you’re a minor your parents have the right to be notified of any consequences you will face in life.
Well I should probably start out by saying that i am pro-choice. However i do not think abortion is completely right. I am absolutely against people have 4,5, or more abortions just because they are not smart enough to use protection. But i do think that it is always a woman’s choice. It is her body and her right to not want to carry the child.
Now I want to say that before you even have some proposition about notifying or not notifying the parents you need to think about other stuff. Why do so many teens get pregnant, get STD’s and other stuff? Because of lack of education. If we had a nation wide sex ED, and not those lame movies where they show “ONLY ABSTINENCE IS THE KEY”, more teens would take precaution before actually having sex. Even statistics show that countries where they teach sex ED and where abortion is legal, have less abortion count than in US. I mean comon if a person does not know what a condom is, what else can you say? They are just not educated. They don’t know that “just this once” could do it. I am personally very happy to have gone through Ms. Cancino. I like knowing everything that could and would happen when certain event occur. and i think every other teen should know that too.
Now about if parents should know or not. Well i can just imagine that if i was a parent, i of course would want to know something big like that. i would want to help my kid through it. but, as a lot of people sad before, if you think you are responsible enough to have sex, you should be responsible enough to either come out and say it to your parents, or take care of it by yourself. A lot of parents are very misunderstanding and would make it harder for the teens. Plus i think that if teen and a parent have a very good a close relationship the teen will tell them anyway without any stupid notice. I think prop. 4 is an invasion of privacy and that the only way they should ever notify the parents if some serious complications occur.
i vote no on prop 4.
Exodus 20:13
“Thou shall not Murder.”
This bible verse is Gods 5th commandment. I am a Christian and strongly believe that abortion is WRONG. Some people will point out that the word “Abortion” is not in the bible, which is true. But the bible clearly teaches that murder ever to a unborn person is breaking His commandments.
Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
God created everyone in the world to be different but also made us in His own image. We are not just a bunch of cells randomly thrown together by some impersonal forces. But, we reflect an eternal God who knew us from before we were made, and purposely called us into being. And by taking that gift from God and killing it is killing Gods creation. The Bible teaches that the child in the womb is truly a human child, who even has a relationship with the Lord. When a women becomes pregnant she should look at it as a gift not extra baggage. To be able to bring life into this world is a great blessing and should not be taken advantage of. Unborn babies are living creatures and just because they are not able to speak for themselves and have selfish moms does not mean they should have to pay the price for it.
Teens who our under the age of 18 and have abortions behind their parents back are still little girls who can not take responsibility for their own action and seriously need to GROW UP. If you think you are mature enough to have sex then you should be mature enough to take care of what comes along with it. Life comes with consequences for everything that you do and YOU CAN NOT ALWAYS TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT.
Personally I know many girls who have had abortions, I would never befriend them because of it but I do not agree with it. And I have come to notice that they all pretty much use the same excuse like, “I to focus on school” “I do not have a job” “I am too sacred to tell my parents” and sadly the most common “I don’t know whose it is.” Excuses are excuses and people will think of anything to get out of situations. But if a women is really that selfish to think about herself and her future and not the child she conceived then frankly maybe she does not deserve to have a child but there is always alternative route like adoption instead of killing it.
I WOULD VOTE YES ON PROPOSITION 4.
This is a very contraversial topic. I don’t that there is ever going to be an agreement on the abortion subject. Many people think that abortion is the excat same thing as killing a person, but if the child is born, how is it going to grow up. Many young girls don’t have good home enviroments, so they look for acceptance else where, perhaps that’s why they get pregnant at such a young age, because of this, the child born might not grow up in the best home. We should let the girls decide what they want to do, it would be better that the parents know what is happening in their daughters life, if it where me, I’d want to know, but in the end it is the girls decision.
I’d say no because anybody who gets pregnant should be able to choose whether or not they want to tell their parents. Sure it is good to tell them, but sometimes people can’t go to their parents for one reason or another. If they want the kid let them have the kid. If they want to get rid of it and let them get rid of it. However, it is not meant to used as your birth control.
What if the girl was raped and she gets pregnant? What then? Are they going to let the raped girls parents decide? First of all, if this thing were passed, the girl would have to be carry the child of her rapist for 48 hours. On top of that she’d have to tell her doctor who tells her parents. There are some parents out there that make stupid choices to prove a point. What if the parent(s) choose to make the girl have the kid “to teach her a lesson”? Their lives change once that kid comes out.
People should be able to make their own decisions on this kind of thing and not have the government choose.
To me Abortion is a very hard thing to have a choice by. Everyone has their own opinions and views on this topic. I personally think it is very wrong that people can have abortions and would get rid of it completely (make it illegal). But that is just my thinking. I completely agree with the idea of parents being told about this though, as at least someone has the chance to both know about the baby and actually give it a chance at life, be it with force or not.
I know some people think of it as their own responsibility to either have the child or not, but i personally think that if you didn’t want the child than you should have thought about that before the little mistake you made months before
First and foremost I’d like to say that I believe abortion is wrong and unethical. Most people would choose to combat my feelings by stating that I’ve never been in the situation (pregnancy) so i wouldn’t understand. How does being in the situation suddenly make it right? A person under eighteen is legally a minor, which means they are held under the responsibility of their parents. It really amazes me how teenagers are demanding to be treated as adults in this situation, they are NOT adults. It really appalls me how something as serious as abortion is taken so lightly, how it is treated as a simple procedure, like getting a shot in the doctor’s office. I hate how society feels pregnant teenagers should be liberated, how they are so mistreated and oppressed. The fact of the matter is that these girls have gotten themselves in the situations they are in. They have made the conscious decisions that they are mature enough to have sex. With such maturity comes taking responsibility for your actions, even if it means disappointing your parents. With a minor, parents should most definitely be informed. It’s the fact that teenagers have the lack of maturity to admit to their parents when they make mistakes, why do they feel it’s ok to be hiding such a decision from their parents. If something should be kept a secret, you are obviously implying it is something wrong. Why do something that puts such a burden on your shoulders? As for the rape situation, why should a child be looked at as a punishment? Yes the whole situation is quite sad and pitiful, but I believe everything happens for a reason, did it ever occur to anyone that maybe this child was meant to be brought into this world, even if it was produced through rape? So I most definitely vote YES on Sarah’s Law.
I think that the parents should be notified before a teen has an abortion because I think that having an abortion is killing an innocent child. Anyone who gets pregnant before marriage has obviously been doing something that they are not supposed to do. Have you ever wondered why teens or pre-teens that are having sex dont tell their parents. Having a baby before getting married is a consequence of sex, afterwards it is usually a blessing. By informing the parents, the girl may be able to be talked out of it.
I also think that the parents should be notified so that there are other people who know. The parents should also know because the girl is under 18 and anyone under 18 is still a child and cannot do certain things. Children are not allowed to get a tattoo, teachers cant take a splinter out of a child’s hand, and cannot get Tylenol.
Even though I think that the parents should be notified I also think that the parents should be encouraged to be kind and supportive.
So I would vote yes on prop 4
This kind of a situation I believe is entirely up to the person who is involved. If they wanted to go ahead and have sex, knowing what the outsome would be then so be it. This is a very hard topic to talk about and everyone has there own opinions but regardless I would vote no simply because the human being responsible should decide if they would like to tell there parents or not. They knew what they were getting into so they need to be responsible and think about what they will do even though they are still considered a minor. I dont think that anybody should be notified when having the abortion. I believe it is the person’s own decision for choosing to notify or not. They may have there own personal reasons for doing this but none the less I would vote no on prop 4. If the girl tells her parents who knows what will happen. It will just add on to the stress of what she is already going through.What if the girl’s parents were really abusive or easily angered then the girl will never want to tell them what happened. They need the reassurance of knowing that their parents can be supportive of them in the decisions they choose to make.
Ok I really don’t know whether to say yes to the proposition or no. The reason why is because honestly nowadays more and more teenagers are having sex like it’s a freakin hobby. Teenagers don’t understand that with having sex you have a HUGE possibility of getting pregnant. I think I should also mention that I am anti-abortion, I believe that if you are ready to have sex and what not you should be ready to accept responsibilities for the consequences that may come with whatever you do. In that case if you are ready you wouldn’t be looking into getting an abortion. I think that if you are a minor still living under your parent’s roof and still living off of them they should have a say in something like this. Honestly if you want to act like an adult and do things adults do, like having sex you should be able to own up to it and tell your parents what’s going on without having them find out when they receive an abortion notice or whatever. I do understand that in some cases these girls come from abusive homes or maybe the parents aren’t really the people they can go to for support but then that’s when I would say that the father of the baby should step in. and if the father isn’t there to accept responsibility then the girl should have thought about that before having sex with this guy in the first place. I also would understand if the girl was raped or whatever but that’s a whole different story and different opinion on abortion, so I wont get into that.
So, as I’m thinking about this more and more it makes me lean more towards saying YES to the proposition. But in the end if you really think about it how many times have they tried to pass this law and yet we are still talking about it. so I doubt they’ll pass it..
After reading the information on Prop. 4 & others people’s responses; I feel like my desicion kind of varies with a mixture of yes and no.
I say no, because a lot of teens have issuses with their parents as it is & having planned parenthood notifying them because their child is getting an abortion would make matters worse. I also say no becuase it may depend on the circumstances on how they got pregnant
ok, well…I would vote yes on this prop because I think that parents definitely need to know what their kids are doing. People keep saying ” well, kids might not feel comfortable telling their parents or their parents might beat them or kick them out the house” but after reading most of these comments, I don’t even think that most regular teens have such bad relationships with their parents that they would be beat or kicked out the house. And OF COURSE ITS GOING TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE TELLING YOUR PARENTS YOU’RE PREGNANT! I mean, come on, no matter how good or bad your relationship with your parents is its going to be be awkward.
But I think it would be for the best. Getting an abortion messes up girl’s bodies and minds, so sometimes, girls will never be able to get pregnant again and they’ll feel super guilty afterward and beat themselves up mentally for years to come. Parents need to be a pert of that so they can help a girl through the process of healing and just so the girl wont have to keep her abortion a secret all her life.
Besides, kids under 18 cant even get their ears pierced without a parents permission and getting an abortion is SO MUCH WORSE than getting your ears pierced. Really, if they dont pass this prop, they better make it legal to get your ears pierced w/out a parents permission.
Wikipedia says that “34 other U.S. States have notification laws in place for as long as 25 years. They have resulted in declined rates of teen abortion, STDs, and teen pregnancy.” I mean thats good right? less STDs and teen pregnancies? See, kids are so scared to tell their parents that they are pregnant, that they just dont get pregnant.
I VOTE YES!
Abortion is a very hard and arguementive subject to talk about. I really don’t like abortion, but im definetly prochoicing the desicion. After looking at everybodys comments, I have concluded that my desicion varies from no and yes. I would vote no because just like everyone else said, it would definetly break a lot of teen and parents relationships up; they also might worsen somebodys relationship with their parent. I know it would break my parents heart if planned parentshood called and let them know I got an abortion without me telling them. To a certain point, it should remain confidential. It also depends on the circumstance on how you got pregnant. But then again I would vote yes; because I know there is a lot of girls out there that use abortion as a birth control; they have sex like its the air they breath and get pregnant, but get an aboirtion because their parents wont know. I feel thats no right at all. If you have sex with someone then you already know your taking a big risk of getting pregnant, that should already be a given in your mind. So under circumstances, I would vote NO depending on how many abortions a girl gets, if its her 3rd time going, then her parents should be notified but if its her 1st, then that needs to remain confidential. So I would be aganist Prop. 4
I think that it should just be up to the girl to decide on whether she wants to tell her parents or not. I dont think that it should be a law that forces the girl to tell her parents because i agree with what everyone else is saying that if they tell their parents than they can tear their family apart from learning this news but still they should have knew this was a possibility before she went out looking for a good time. But also i think that if the girl wants to keep this to herself and not tell anyone than its her right to do so. What it all comes down to is the girl and what she believes in. So i guess if i was able to vote i would say no to this.
I think I’m going to have to agree with Prop 4. It was hard for me to decide because I strongly believed that it should be the pregnant minor’s decision and that it would be better if the parents weren’t involved. But after reviewing the pros and cons, I think it would be best for this prop to pass. The only serious or alarming argument against Prop 4 is that teens would possibly do a self-induced abortion or even suicide. That seems to be only an extreme example, and and would only happen rarely. On the other hand it has been proven in other states that this prop helps reduce additional teen abortions, STDs, and teen pregnancy. Not only that but it would benefit the teen emotionally in the long run if the parents were notified, they can console her over the loss if anything.
Ok, to being with, I’m really against abortion if its within my family. If my daughter was pregnant and got an abortion I think I’d be more mad with the fact she got one, and killed an unborn child, than having it. LIfe is life, it shouldn’t just be thrown away because you did something stupid. If you had the power to say yes, than you should have the power to have the kid. (Rape issues are something else). I just think if the girls don’t like consequences they should protect themselves, or make sure the person they sleep with at least protects himself. I’d want to know if my child is pregnant, I mean first of all I don’ think she should be out there having sex, but if she is, at least be smart enough to use protectoin in order to lie.
Now, about those people who have parents who would punish them severly, well its your chance to report child abuse if its true. I mean a parent will most likely love you no matter what, but I know there are parents out there with issues. Its time to step up and tell the cops that the person feel very unsafe at your home, maybe they can investigate and find the person a better home. I know most people might not like how I think, but it is my opinion after all. So I’d vote yes on Prob 4.
well well well…let me say when reading the email about this blog i was completely against it, but after reading what others had to say my mind began to wander.FACT many teenagers are having sex,many preteens are having sex with this most people having sex arent ready for all the potential consequences that come with opening your legs. i understand some people are worried by what their parents responses might be after finding out that their babies are pregnant with babies of their own, but nhey life is about natural consequenses.you were ready to have sex now you have to be ready to deal with the those consequences whether they be bad or good.i myself have been through wuite alot in life some things were very disappointing to my entire family,but look at where i am now.i have gone from not having a relationship with my parents to telling my parents my every little secret.so all in all i believe if youre ready to have sex you need to be ready to deal with all the consequences good and bad so in conclusion im starting to think id vote yes to this proposition.
I say after reading about this proposition i must say that me personally am somewhat torn. I feel that any teen who thinks their “ready” to have sex then i feel that they should be ready to live with the consequences that may follow afterwards, such as becoming pregnant. I dont believe in abortion and being in your teen years i feel if your living under your partents roof like they still care for you then i say they have a right to know whats going on in their childs life. One of my sisters became pregant at 17yrs old and of ocourse she was terriffied but my parnets found out beause the way she found out she was pregant was because she became very ill and my folks took her to the doctors and they discovered she was sick because she was pregnant. Of course it can be heart breaking, and no one wants to see their parents stress out over it but but it’ll all work out.
I guess to some it all up i feel the parents should have a right to know. I vote yes.
After reading up on Prop 4 I would have to vote no on it just for the fact that I think its the girls choice on whether anyone should know that she’s pregnant and is having an abortion. Its not like the parents concieved the child so it should be none of there business that there kid is having an abortion. Although I do believe that a parent and officer should be notified if there is evidence that she was sexually abused because the girl shouldn’t be a shamed or scared of telling her parents because it wasn’t her fault that she got pregnant in the first place and that person that did that to her needs to be put in jail. So I think that prop 4 should be revised to certain guidlines where it tell the doctor certain situation where they should notify a parent or officer in such cases where the girl was sexually abused or something then i would probably vote yes on it.
I would definitely vote no on Prop 4. When you apply this to the real world, it just wont work. If a teen is pregnant, and they do not have a good relationship with their parents, you can bet that they will make some very risky moves to avoid letting their parents find out that they’re going to have a baby. If this law passes, we might see teenage couples trying to purposely have a miscarriage, and this is, of course dangerous.
I also believe that if they are ‘forced’ to have the child because they cant get an abortion, then they wont care too much about it and in the end, this isn’t fair for the child, who was accidentally brought into this world.
Its the girls choice, and i think that living with guilt and knowledge of having had an abortion is punishment enough. Its also her body, her life, and her future that shes screwing up, plus, Mommy and Daddy cant be there every step of the way.
I am Pro-Choice for abortions, it is up to the mother if she wants to have the child or not. I would vote NO on pro. 4. Some teenagers do not get along with there parents and are afraid of them. Why would the teen go and tell there parents then? If we do not allow teenagers to get abortions in less they have parental consent then we will have teenagers giving them selves abrotions. Such as prepusily hurting them seleves to have an abortion. Some parents are against abortions and would force their daughter to have the child and that will make the mother not want the child more. It is true teenagers should be aware of what can happen if they have sex, they should be safe and avoid geting pregnant by using condoms or some type of birth control. It would be nice if the teenagers told their parents that they were geting an abortion just so that the parents can be aware of what is going on, but as we all know some parents are not very understanding. I personaly would tell my parents that I am geting an abortion if i were pregnant and my parents would support that desicion, but not all parents are like mine. If this is the third time they are trying to pass this law and it hasnt happened then it should not get passed.I would vote NO on pro 4.
I really don’t know what I would vote I’m stuck between yes or no. I believe that it depends on the teen or child’s parents. Some parents are more understanding then others . I understand why some girls would want to keep the abortion and being pregnant away from there parents especially if there parents are abusive , or will kick them out, or even worse. In that case I think the girl should have the choice. But I also think that if your ready to have sex then you should be ready to have a baby, because you are never 100 percent safe from getting pregnant. i would only vote yes is the girl wasn’t being responsible and got pregnant and just because she doesn’t want it she wants to get a abortion. In that case I think the parents should have a say in it and the doctor should be able to tell the girls parents.
First off, I’d like to clarify my stance on abortion.
Personally, i could never go through with something like an abortion. i have family and friends very close to me who haven’t been ‘blessed’ with the chance to raise a child of their own and their losses have greatly affected me. Witnessing the desire for a child firsthand, i feel that by preventing an opportunity at life would be taking the possibility of a child for granted.
However, I know that everyone could not be in a situation such as mine. Many unwanted pregnancies occur in homes that are not financially stable or do not provide love and attention that is necessary to raise a child. This, I keep in mind when i profess my decision to be pro-choice. Although i do believe there should be many restrictions on the woman’s right to an abortion, I do believe that the government does not have the right to decide what’s best for her.
So by now, you’ve probably figured that my vote would be for ‘no on Prop 4′.
It would be nice if parents were more involved in their childrens’ lives; sadly, the reality is that they are not. Teens are ‘sexually active’ and, because they are not well informed, become pregnant and acquire STDs. Many teens don’t feel comfortable taking to their parents about sex or asking them for help when they are in trouble. That’s when they go to the Planned Parenthoods and seek help there (although I am very against the way abortion clinics are run: the isolation, lack of consultation, etc.) Cases can be as intense as pregnant teens in abusive relationships or violent parents – where the pregnancy could put their life in jeopardy. Even in the hospitals, the life of the mother is more important than the unborn child…
First of all I want to say that I am pro-life. Sarah’s Law has some potential to it, but I don’t think it will work. I was reading all the arguments for the law, and they are all really good. But then i read the arguments against and they were really good to. Notifying parents is what seems to have most people against the law. Not having a good communication with your parents is probably one of the things that leads to having sex at a young age. I personally have a really good communication with my parents and a devoted Catholic, I know I won’t find myself in a situation where I will get pregnant and be afraid to tell my parents. The only exception to that of course will be, God forbid, sexual abuse. I always say, you should be having intercourse when you are old enough to be having a baby. If you won’t be able to handle it then don’t do it. As for girls who unfortunately get sexually abused and do end up being pregnant, you can give yor baby to an adoption agency. I can’t put myself in their shoes, but there is always a better option than abortion.
There should be a rule that if the girl was sexually abused then she can decide for herself, but if she wasn’t, then notification of parents should be done. Of course they might all end up saying that they were abused so that’s why I say that there is no effective way to reduce abortion. If they want it done, then it will be done. Overall – I would vote No on proposition 4.
With the promiscuity of teenagers today if a girl were to get pregnant their parents or legal gaurdians should be able to find out whether they want to get an abortion. Parents are the soul providers for all children and when a child makes a mistake as severe as getting preganant if they chose to abort the unborn child their parents should be contacted and informed. If a girl is not emotionally or physically ready to tell her parents she is sexually active then she should not be having sex. If she cannot tell her parents and be open about the responsibilty that comes with haveing sex, then she is not ready for the responsibility of the consequences. These consequences could be her getting pregnant and wanting to get an abortion, which should be her choice but chould also be confirmed my her parents. So I would vote yes to prosition 4 because abortion is very serious and for a person who is not seriously responsible when having sex, is obviously not responsible to make the decision of abortion.
I have, am, and always will be pro-choice.
No matter how many people tell me I’m wrong, I will remain pro-choice.
As a member of a family who has had an abortion occur, i can see both sides of this argument. “That child could have grown up to find the cure for cancer” yeah well the other side of that, which people refuse to see if they are pro life is “What if that child grows up to be the next member of the ‘Charles Manson family’?”
As slim as that chance might be, we also have to look at the safety of the GIRL who wants the abortion. If this proposition is passed many girls may be too scared to actually go to their parents… in argument to that I believe that before the girl goes to the clinic that she should inform at least one parent, but it should not be mandatory.
Many families are not as nice as others, girls can be kicked out from their houses, or many other negative things can occur that can put the girl and at this point unborn child in harms way.
I see both sides of this argument but I believe it is the girls choice to say whether or not she is ready to be a mother. If the girl brings a child into the world, a world that we live in, with basically hell happening all around and the girl is too young to take actual CARE of the child then what kind of life will that child live?
There’s a lot to consider.
I would vote no.
after reading the proposition i think that i would have to say no. i think that because the girl is the one who made the child that she should be able to choose. The parents have nothing to do with the unborn child. in my opinion i think that it is better for the child to do what she thinks is best because it is her child. it may be wrong for her to have an abortion but id rather the child not being born then to be born and not taken care of. The fact that planned parenthood and other family clinics allow this in my opinion is a good idea. To keep things confidential is a good idea however i think that this could be abused. if girl keeps going to the clinic i think that after a few times their parents should be notified.
I vote yes. Abortion is a serious issue… it is a human your are killing and i don’t think that a teenager is a mature enough to make a decision rather less have effin sex. If they choose to get an abortion the parents should be notified, they are more capable of helping their kid through a decision this big. Also there have been some cases in which the abortion goes wrong because the fear of having the pregnancy be known. Also a baby shouldnt be looked as a mistake or a regret…rather a gift. things happen for a reason and you have to just find the reason rather than dispose of it. Also you have to think of the consequences for example in a few years when you are finally when you are a little bit more mature you will look back at the abortion and regret it.
I vote no.
i believe that the choice belongs to the individual because its their child and their cause. The consent form should be for the individual because they’re the ones who will be getting rid of the baby, not the parent. i believe the teen receives the choice and full responsibility of their child and is up to them weather or not they want to make that choice as long as its legal.
I would vote yes for this. I don’t agree with abortion and I think that any why to reduce abortion rates is good. I think that making minors really think about the decision they’re making is smart and I think that the parents should be involved in the process. What if they parents could help? Maybe the minor is only getting an abortion because she doesn’t think that she’ll have support for a baby. But that idea is mostly likely formed before they tell their parents. Minors tend to make hasty and rash decisions. I know I’m a minor too, but I just don’t think that teenagers think about their actions. If they got pregnant when they didn’t want to, then why would they be able to make a sound decision about a life? I think that their parents could help. And I think that it’s kind of weird that you can get an abortion and kill your baby without the consent or knowledge of a parent, but you can’t drink? Girls making these decisions are attacked by fear, so at least making it mandatory to tell a guardian about the baby seems like it would allow the girl to make a decision in her right mind. People do crazy things when they’re scared. They steal, they lie, they even kill others. I don’t think under these circumstances, a teenager can make the same kind of choices that she might if she wasn’t under that pressure.
So yes, I would vote for this and I hope that if ever it is voted upon, it will be passed.
Hell No, I wouldn’t vote yes to this law. I completely agree with rebecca. Yes kids should be responsib;e, but weare only looking at one aspect of this. We paint a picture of immature teens throwing away their inhibitions in the throw of passion, but what if the sex wasn’t consenual. What if rape was involved, does that mean that that girl should have to raise that baby up. Yes with abortion a life is not lived, but in a forced family where choices aren’t allowed, two lives are lost. No one thinks about the potential that the mother had. Instead of going out with friends, or going to college, studying abroad, tasting life she’s stuck takeing a low in job that she can’t afford to quit. Also what about guys. Their lives can be destroyed to if abortion will no longer be an option. there are a lot of snakey, shifty women out there who just want to tie a guy down, and by lying about taking birth control or puncturing the condom she can do just that. Sure we could be careful and think about our actions but than it just wouldn’t be LIFE>
So from reading prop. 4 i vote no on this. Im pro-choice because its the girls choice if she wants to keep it to herself or not. If she would like have to come to her parents the parents might get pissed off and beat her. This could happen so the girl might get scared to do so and would drive her on not telling so thats where she could decide on what to do.
i say yes on prop 4 because the parents have the right to know what the child is about to do. Everyone ones that their parents love their child and that they went to know their every move and since our parents have gone throw more experiences they know whether something is a good or bad decision. i don’t think its girth for some 1 to have an abortion and not tell their parents especially if their underage. but either way the parents would have to find out so might as well tell them in advance. and that is y most people get on the pill to prevent pregnancy. as a teenager you really know from right to wrong well you do bytu would have trouble going towards the good. and even if a girl would get pregn or not parents would help them out either way.
Seeing where it says that Sarah’s law would lower teenage STDS, abortion, and pregnancy initially made this law sound like a good idea. Even though I lean more pro-choice rather than pro-life. After reading through the whole article, I completely disagree with Prop. 4. Mandatory sex education in schools would also be affective in reducing the overall rates of teenage STDS and pregnancies. If your parents are not involved in what goes on in your life enough to know that you are sexually active then they don’t need to be notified about your choice to have an abortion. I think this law is more based on the hope that if a teenage girl goes to her parents and says she pregnant and having an abortion her parents will support her. We all know that more often than not that is not the case. Another good point would be that what if a girl is pregnant due to a sexual assault and haven’t told any one? (There’s no law that requires someone to report a sexual assault.) I think that this proposition should not be passed because it is a violation of someones privacy.
I do not belive that this prop should pass. It may sound like a good idea to people when it doesnt really have to do with you, but when you are put in that position im sure this prop will seem like a bad idea. Not all parent are the same and not all teens are the same and to make a prop that would make a proposition that would affect all of us the same way doesnt seem right. Teens have the right to tell there parent want they are comfortable to tell them. Parents should understand this and allow it, but if this passes teens rights are taken away.
People are so against abotions these days and it would affect teens damaticly if this passes. If parent are aware most teen would be forced to have the child even if they are not prepared to have them and it would put their lives on hold. But i say teens should just go ahead and get the abotions if they are no ready for a kid. Why do we want more kid out there. Do we not have enough kid out there living in orphanages without families, and do we not have kid out there living in 3rd world countries with no food and living a life of sadness.
As i see it this can go one of two ways. Teens are either going to go ahead and have there kind and put there live on hold. This will give us more kid in orphanages and more uneducated and ignoarant people out there that werent able to even get a high school diploma. The second thing that could happen is that teens would get so scared that the will look for other ways of dealing with it beside telling there parents. Either they will run away from home or try to kill the baby illegaly(which is more dangerous). In my opinion if this prop passes it will bring nothing but negative side effect.
Peace out!!!
i say NO, on the Sarah”s law. prop Four. I do think parents should know what there children are doing, but then again everything are make though own decision. Everything has the right to make there own choices on thing like that. its there body, and there responisbly so i think they should be able to make choice.
this prop (four) has been arounf for a long time and the same people have been trying to pass it, but it never gets passed, so i think they should just leave it allow. its only the crazy parents trying to pass it.
so no on prop four. (:
I would vote yes. I think that if teens are irresponsible enough to get pregnant then they are not responsible enough to decide whether they are going to keep the baby or not. Honestly all they have to do is use some protection and be responsible, but it is ridiculous if they can’t even be smart enough to do that. People like that shouldn’t have sex in the first place because if they do have kids, then they are probably going to raise their kids to make dumb choices like they did. I think that if a girl does want to get an abortion her parents should be notified and let their parents help them decide because the person clearly wasn’t able to make their own choices. And who knows the girl might even decide to keep the baby and pull a “Juno”.
I say yes on prop 4 because the parents have the right to know what the child is about to do. Everyone knows that their parents love their child and that they want to know their every move and since our parents have gone throw more experiences they know whether something is a good or bad decision. i don’t think its right for someone to have an abortion and not tell their parents especially if their underage. Either way the parents would have to find out so might as well tell them in advance and that is why most people get on the pill to prevent pregnancy. As a teenager you really dont know from right to wrong…. well you do but you would have trouble going towards the good. Even if a girl would get pregnant or not parents would help them out either way.
I’d also just like to say that in the realm of medicine, there’s something called the hypocratic oath. This means that a Doctor cannot delibratley injure or terminate a life. When a woman gets pregnant she goes through trimesters. In the first stages of her pregnancy (when abortions are typically done) there is no baby. It’s a fetus. It doesn’t breathe, think, talk,it isn’t alive. You can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. The topic of abortion would never even be practiced if it was killing something, because that’s unethical.
I strongly believe that parents should not be notified in advance of their child’s decision to have an abortion. It’s the child that made certain choices to get to that point, and it’s the child that has to make that decision with THEIR body. If this law gets passed not only will some people try to get rid of a baby on their own but it will go against patient/ doctor confedentiality. We should be able to trust our doctors to not tell what our conditions are and this law goes directly against that.
i believe that it shouldnt be a law to have to tell minors’ parents about their child getting an abortion. I think it should be pro choice. Everyone knows that the average teen loses their virginity around the age of 15 or 16. A lot of parents say thy want to know and help their child if they get pregnant, but what about the parents who kick their sons or daughters out of their house because about this? They are teenagers and how much can they do to provide a safe home and food for their expected child? How much can they do to provide a safe house and food for themselves? Teenagers are teenagers and are going to have sexual relationships whenever they feel like they are “ready.” It doesnt matter if there’s a law that prevents it, you cant stop them from doing it. Te only thing this law will cause is for teenage boys and girls to get kicked out of their safe homes and out into a street and gang related life. This law can cause street crime to go up. Teenagers living unhealthy lives. Or even having abortions made by friends or uncertified people. This could cause serious disease or health problems for the female and even infertility. If the teenager feels like she needs help from a parental figure then they should have the choice to do so. If i were to vote i would vote against this proposition. I would rather have teenagers having a safe procedure done on them than getting kicked out or illegal procedures done in dark alleys or stranger’s houses.
If i had to vote on this proposition i would definitely vote no. Most parents in this day and age would literally beat their kids to a bloody pulp if they found out. Some parents would possibly harm their daughters so much that they wouldn’t even be able to carry the unborn child. It’s scary how society has become what it is now and is scary where its going; at this point it in time people are going to have sex regardless of what other people say. The two day waiting period wont really affect whether or not the girl has abortion. In reality forcing the girl to tell her parents could push her to have an unsafe “back-alley” abortion.
I believe that the girl who is considering getting an abortion should tell her parents on her own if she believes that it will help her in the end. I don’t see the point in having a young girl bring a child into this world when she doesn’t believe she take care of the baby when it is born. I think that making the proposition law will have more of a negative effect than positive.
I would vote no on Prop 4
I would vote yes on proposition four.
I am definitely pro-life and I agree with Janet’s statement about how just because that inocent child inside your womb cannot speak up does not mean it does not feel the pain. There have been incidents that have shown that the child actually feels the pain when it is being sucked out of the mothers stomach.
Plus the child is a gift of life and should be treated as such because our child is the closest thing to heaven that we have here on earth. Our little one is a miracle of life and if you think about it how many women wish with all their heart to have a child, but are not able to and to destroy one, through abortion, would be not only irresponsible it would be murderous; it would be killing a human being, a piece of innocent life, and a little angel.
I vote yes on preposition four because abortion is wrong and should not happen.
i just received my ballot in the mail the other day, so I have started to vote. I voted no on this proposition for three reasons.
(1) This the third time backers have attempted to pass this proposition. Prior to these three times, the legislature tried, and the court struck it down (which is why it is a constitutional amendment now). “Proposition 4 adds the “other adult family member” alternative to answer critics of earlier propositions. It also would require a girl who chooses that alternative to allege parental abuse.” I just don’t like that in order to be offered an alternative, teens need to allege parental abuse. Are there other reasons to not want to tell your parents?
(2) Laws or programs should be available to encourage positive responses. This attempts to force it. As law, I think this would create more problems than it would solve. And, the only way to amend a proposition is to pass another proposition. I prefer to see the legislature take this up, so if needed to be, they could amend it.
(3) If the teen is 16 or older, I am inclined to let them decide.
I would defiantly Vote YES on Prop 4!
If you read about Prop 4 you will see that not only is it just so a parent to be notify but just any adult in your family that you trust in. So, if you feel that your parents will kill you, or kick you out, or do something else that can affect you emotionally and physically you have an adult in your family you can turn to for help. This would also reduce pedophiles and the number of rapes. This would help underage girls to turn to the right place for help. Some girls go and get those “alley abortion” places, or free clinics, or places where anyone pretends they are “professionals” or Dr.s. Girls that go to not so safe places are in huge risk of dying, get a horrible infections, getting there other stuff down there get cut or taken out with out there knowledge. Plus what girl at her teen age years will know how to make a mature decision. Plus most parents give you a roof over your head, clothing, food, and a place to call home, so why shouldn’t they have a right to know that your having an abortion or at least someone in your family should know so they can be there with you along the way. Did you know that most pedophiles get vulnerable teen age girls, rape them, and then force them to go get abortions, if it was a requirement for an adult in your family or a parent be notified most pedophiles would not even bother/ risk getting caught. I really support the Yes on 4 campaign. Plus teens would think twice about getting pregnant if they knew some one in there family had to be notified.
http://www.yeson4.net/