Comments on: New gangs move into the I.E. http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/ Federal, State, and Local Politics Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:11:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: wake up stupd ppl!! http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-6742 wake up stupd ppl!! Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:11:27 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-6742 Gangs have bn around the .IE forever!!just as long as LA!!Its actually old news!!! The differnce is that its starting to hit home to All u rich stuck up ppl,,,,, mostly white!! Welcome to our world!! Mexicans and blacks world!! That's just the way thngs are!!! Gangs are nvr going away no matter what u do!!!so watch ur kidss ppl cuz gangs will grab them and suck em into the lifstyle!!! Gangs have bn around the .IE forever!!just as long as LA!!Its actually old news!!! The differnce is that its starting to hit home to All u rich stuck up ppl,,,,, mostly white!! Welcome to our world!! Mexicans and blacks world!! That’s just the way thngs are!!! Gangs are nvr going away no matter what u do!!!so watch ur kidss ppl cuz gangs will grab them and suck em into the lifstyle!!!

]]> By: Lee Davis http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1064 Lee Davis Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:40:55 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1064 Gangs are goin to be problems no matter what cause they are all about the money and respect. The only way to stop gangs is to get kids interested in other things that will make good money. There is no way all the gang members are going to be arrested. There has to be a way to let people see the real disadvantages to gangbangin. All the kids see is all the girls and money and they say I want that too. Some kids are not accepted at home so gangs dont have a problem,they will accept anybody as long as they have heart. I stay in fontana and the mexican gangs are everywhere its hard not to be noticed. I have to hang with others people like me or if Get caught up walking alone then I am going to have a serious problem. I mean its not easy avoiding gangs because they are every where. The biggest gang are the cops and they have the most power so they better get out and start expanding turf unless they want to have a field day in the streets. All the new gangs might not be serious cause they could just be young people tryin to prove something that are all talk and no action. There are gangs that are serious threats that what you should look for or those with major beef. The other type of gangs that should be looked after are the ones who are tryin to come up I mean the poor ones those are the ruthless ones that have nothin to lose. Gangs are goin to be problems no matter what cause they are all about the money and respect. The only way to stop gangs is to get kids interested in other things that will make good money. There is no way all the gang members are going to be arrested. There has to be a way to let people see the real disadvantages to gangbangin. All the kids see is all the girls and money and they say I want that too. Some kids are not accepted at home so gangs dont have a problem,they will accept anybody as long as they have heart. I stay in fontana and the mexican gangs are everywhere its hard not to be noticed. I have to hang with others people like me or if Get caught up walking alone then I am going to have a serious problem. I mean its not easy avoiding gangs because they are every where. The biggest gang are the cops and they have the most power so they better get out and start expanding turf unless they want to have a field day in the streets. All the new gangs might not be serious cause they could just be young people tryin to prove something that are all talk and no action. There are gangs that are serious threats that what you should look for or those with major beef. The other type of gangs that should be looked after are the ones who are tryin to come up I mean the poor ones those are the ruthless ones that have nothin to lose.

]]> By: david orellana http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1058 david orellana Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:11:14 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1058 i think that gangs are terrible and a HUGE waste of time. i think that people are shocked about gangs in the I.E. becasue they are used to hearing about gang violence in compton, long beach, so on and so forth, but im not surprised. gangs are always trying to find new territory, new ground, anything is fair game. i believe that no matter how hard we try that gangs are gonna be aroung forever, justcause thats the easy way out. for kids in ghetoos they think that no matter what they do, their lives will be the sam eos school is a waste of time. if you think about it not every place in the I.E. is nice, i go to fontana a lot becaus eof work and where i go it is very much like a ghetto and i am not surprised that gangs are moving in to sieze the opprtunity. i would love to see gangs stopped but thats a battle where we are on the losing side. i think that gangs are terrible and a HUGE waste of time. i think that people are shocked about gangs in the I.E. becasue they are used to hearing about gang violence in compton, long beach, so on and so forth, but im not surprised. gangs are always trying to find new territory, new ground, anything is fair game. i believe that no matter how hard we try that gangs are gonna be aroung forever, justcause thats the easy way out. for kids in ghetoos they think that no matter what they do, their lives will be the sam eos school is a waste of time. if you think about it not every place in the I.E. is nice, i go to fontana a lot becaus eof work and where i go it is very much like a ghetto and i am not surprised that gangs are moving in to sieze the opprtunity. i would love to see gangs stopped but thats a battle where we are on the losing side.

]]> By: Samantha O. http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1020 Samantha O. Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:50:27 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1020 Well all in all you are going to find gangs just about anywhere!! Some places stand out more than others and some places don't. I truthfully would have to say be more careful of the ones that don't stand out as much because that is where the gang members are most likely to do something if anything rather than those that put it out there. The ones that talk the most are the ones just trying to put a front, because nowadays there are many wannabes. As far as the migration though, it doesnt really matter that is most likely just the hotspot right now!! But if you are a "real" gang member believe me you wouldn't move to a hotspot if cops are noticing, gang members are a lot smarter than we think they are. They also are usually more attentive to their surroundings and wouldn't set themselves in any position to where they may get caught up.Really there is no solution to gangs!! Hey that's some people's interest and we can try helping them find other interests but if that is it than there is nothing we can do but wish them luck and just try to avoid them for our sake. That doesn't mean you can't be friends with them just don't kick it with them too much and let yourself be influenced! I know from experience because I have friends that are in gangs and family members and have seen some things!! But it doesn't mean I love them any less of frown on them I just pray for them and hope they grow out of it! And ill only spend time with them at major family or friend events and that's about it. They also respect that I choose not to get in all that mess because that's not me!! So it all works out!!! Well all in all you are going to find gangs just about anywhere!! Some places stand out more than others and some places don’t. I truthfully would have to say be more careful of the ones that don’t stand out as much because that is where the gang members are most likely to do something if anything rather than those that put it out there. The ones that talk the most are the ones just trying to put a front, because nowadays there are many wannabes. As far as the migration though, it doesnt really matter that is most likely just the hotspot right now!! But if you are a “real” gang member believe me you wouldn’t move to a hotspot if cops are noticing, gang members are a lot smarter than we think they are. They also are usually more attentive to their surroundings and wouldn’t set themselves in any position to where they may get caught up.Really there is no solution to gangs!! Hey that’s some people’s interest and we can try helping them find other interests but if that is it than there is nothing we can do but wish them luck and just try to avoid them for our sake. That doesn’t mean you can’t be friends with them just don’t kick it with them too much and let yourself be influenced! I know from experience because I have friends that are in gangs and family members and have seen some things!! But it doesn’t mean I love them any less of frown on them I just pray for them and hope they grow out of it! And ill only spend time with them at major family or friend events and that’s about it. They also respect that I choose not to get in all that mess because that’s not me!! So it all works out!!!

]]> By: Brandon-West http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1017 Brandon-West Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:27:41 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1017 Gangs moving in the I.E may seem surprising to some, but honestly this really didn’t just happen. Gangs have been in the I.E for a while. I think they shouldn’t just try to focus on gangs in the I.E but also the root of the gangs. Pretty much no matter where you go there is going to be gangs. I was raised in a somewhat decent part of Pomona, but even when I was growing up, there still was gangs around my block. Some people say a lot of kids join gangs because they didn’t have anything to do, but I do not agree with that statement 100%. I think a major reason why I never considered joining a gang is because I was raised the right way by my family. People in gangs have a different mind state when there raised in the gangs. When your in a gang you start off at a young age, and the kids usually join the gangs because they do not have anything else. The gang is like their family. I honestly think gangs are impossible to avoid. Gangs pretty much come from poverty. I think the only way you can fix the gang problem is to fix the poverty problem, which is impossible. Lets not just figure that since many of these kids are from the I.E that they have a stable family and also that they are not in poverty. Many of them see these gang members, from L.A, now staying in there city making money and see the relationship they have with one another. Many kids in the I.E do not have money or a stable family so they seek gangs for refuge. It attracts them. That is how many kids get trapped into the gang life. And once they get in the gang life its even harder to get them out. The cities should focus on the kids at younger ages and try there best to prevent the younger ones from joining. Like mentioned earlier it should be more clubs for younger kids with mentors,they should educate them and things of that nature. Many of these kids need guidance from someone, and a lot of times they find the wrong guidance. The cities should try there best to keep the kids out of trouble and to help them not have a need for a gangs. They also need to focus a lot on the gangs in L.A because that is the root of the problem. I think it will be impossible to get rid of gangs, but the cities can prevent many young people from joining. Gangs moving in the I.E may seem surprising to some, but honestly this really didn’t just happen. Gangs have been in the I.E for a while. I think they shouldn’t just try to focus on gangs in the I.E but also the root of the gangs. Pretty much no matter where you go there is going to be gangs. I was raised in a somewhat decent part of Pomona, but even when I was growing up, there still was gangs around my block. Some people say a lot of kids join gangs because they didn’t have anything to do, but I do not agree with that statement 100%. I think a major reason why I never considered joining a gang is because I was raised the right way by my family. People in gangs have a different mind state when there raised in the gangs. When your in a gang you start off at a young age, and the kids usually join the gangs because they do not have anything else. The gang is like their family. I honestly think gangs are impossible to avoid. Gangs pretty much come from poverty. I think the only way you can fix the gang problem is to fix the poverty problem, which is impossible. Lets not just figure that since many of these kids are from the I.E that they have a stable family and also that they are not in poverty. Many of them see these gang members, from L.A, now staying in there city making money and see the relationship they have with one another. Many kids in the I.E do not have money or a stable family so they seek gangs for refuge. It attracts them. That is how many kids get trapped into the gang life. And once they get in the gang life its even harder to get them out. The cities should focus on the kids at younger ages and try there best to prevent the younger ones from joining. Like mentioned earlier it should be more clubs for younger kids with mentors,they should educate them and things of that nature. Many of these kids need guidance from someone, and a lot of times they find the wrong guidance. The cities should try there best to keep the kids out of trouble and to help them not have a need for a gangs. They also need to focus a lot on the gangs in L.A because that is the root of the problem. I think it will be impossible to get rid of gangs, but the cities can prevent many young people from joining.

]]> By: martin R http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1014 martin R Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:14:48 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1014 its kind of sad seeing that when a city gets rid of one gang and another one just pops up in its place. citys try to do whatever they can to get rid of gang problems to make it safer for their families, mailny children. i do think that what citys are doing to get rid of gangs is effective but they just need to keep it up. cutting off fundings for gangs is hard but if the city can somehow find a way to do it, they should. by cutting off fundings and putting gangs members in jail or trying to help members get out of their gangs is a great way of getting rid of gangs and keeping them out. parents and families in a whole think that just by moving their families away from the current gangs that they are going to be safe. yes, that may be true for a time but eventually if nothing is done to keep gangs from getting out of control and spreading it wont matter where they move. its kind of sad seeing that when a city gets rid of one gang and another one just pops up in its place. citys try to do whatever they can to get rid of gang problems to make it safer for their families, mailny children. i do think that what citys are doing to get rid of gangs is effective but they just need to keep it up. cutting off fundings for gangs is hard but if the city can somehow find a way to do it, they should. by cutting off fundings and putting gangs members in jail or trying to help members get out of their gangs is a great way of getting rid of gangs and keeping them out.

parents and families in a whole think that just by moving their families away from the current gangs that they are going to be safe. yes, that may be true for a time but eventually if nothing is done to keep gangs from getting out of control and spreading it wont matter where they move.

]]> By: Damien - West http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1010 Damien - West Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:56:51 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1010 this is a big problem. parents think that by moving, they can keep their kids out of gangs and/or trouble. i have the perfect example for this. lets just say that u have a rotten apple. if u put that rotten apple in a basket full of ripe apples, the rotten one isn't going to turn ripe. Whats really gonna happen is the rotten apple will begin to rot the others. so in other words, a good enironment isnt going to change a person, which is probaly how gangs got into walnut or places like that. I dont think there will be a solution to gangs because its all up the person. they choose whether they want to bang or not. this is a big problem. parents think that by moving, they can keep their kids out of gangs and/or trouble. i have the perfect example for this. lets just say that u have a rotten apple. if u put that rotten apple in a basket full of ripe apples, the rotten one isn’t going to turn ripe. Whats really gonna happen is the rotten apple will begin to rot the others. so in other words, a good enironment isnt going to change a person, which is probaly how gangs got into walnut or places like that. I dont think there will be a solution to gangs because its all up the person. they choose whether they want to bang or not.

]]> By: Mike R http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1004 Mike R Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:53:33 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1004 Gangs are everywhere, that's a common fact. No matter where you live, there will be gangs. I mean, Walnut has gangs, and Walnut is a relatively quite place, at least in the places I've been to. I don't think there's a real sure fire way to end gangs NOW. But you could always try to prevent kids from joining them. I think a big solution would be to start anti-gang programs to inform kids about the dangers of joining gangs. This way, we could prevent today's children from joining gangs. Another great way to stop gangs, as Kodi said, is to crack down on drug sales. I'm sure many gangs are funded threw the selling of drugs. It doesn't really help that we've got kids listening to rap songs talking about drugs and guns, and even top notch NBA players with gang affiliations. Don't get me wrong, I love hip hop, but I think today's youth take it the wrong way. Go ahead, listen to their music, but rappers don't always do what they're rapping about. To further explain my statement about gangsters in the NBA, Stephen Jackson, co-captain of the Golden State Warriors, everyone's favorite Cinderella story, is a gang member. He has praying hands holding a gun, tattooed onto his chest. And he reps his gang hard. In pop culture, we really hold the gang leaders up high. We show them, SOMETIMES, as being cool, and living the life. Look at Tony Montana, many people look at him like he's a hero. People love Scarface. People want to be like him. But he's a gangster too. Personally, I think we just have to keep people in check. Keep our kids educated, and put them into an environment where they don't have to resort to becoming gangsters. Gangs are everywhere, that’s a common fact. No matter where you live, there will be gangs. I mean, Walnut has gangs, and Walnut is a relatively quite place, at least in the places I’ve been to. I don’t think there’s a real sure fire way to end gangs NOW. But you could always try to prevent kids from joining them. I think a big solution would be to start anti-gang programs to inform kids about the dangers of joining gangs. This way, we could prevent today’s children from joining gangs. Another great way to stop gangs, as Kodi said, is to crack down on drug sales. I’m sure many gangs are funded threw the selling of drugs. It doesn’t really help that we’ve got kids listening to rap songs talking about drugs and guns, and even top notch NBA players with gang affiliations. Don’t get me wrong, I love hip hop, but I think today’s youth take it the wrong way. Go ahead, listen to their music, but rappers don’t always do what they’re rapping about. To further explain my statement about gangsters in the NBA, Stephen Jackson, co-captain of the Golden State Warriors, everyone’s favorite Cinderella story, is a gang member. He has praying hands holding a gun, tattooed onto his chest. And he reps his gang hard. In pop culture, we really hold the gang leaders up high. We show them, SOMETIMES, as being cool, and living the life. Look at Tony Montana, many people look at him like he’s a hero. People love Scarface. People want to be like him. But he’s a gangster too. Personally, I think we just have to keep people in check. Keep our kids educated, and put them into an environment where they don’t have to resort to becoming gangsters.

]]> By: jasmine w http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 jasmine w Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:45:46 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-1002 I honestly cant say that I’m surprised that gangs are now moving to the IE. Just because the IE isn’t south central the “watts“ or even the “projects“ doesn’t mean that they aren’t going to have this issue. People need to realize that gangs aren’t only in what people would call the “ghetto.” Yes they maybe did begin there but the wont end there. This article somewhat annoys me to an extreme. Gangs’ have been around for a very long time. This issues hasn’t just come up. Personally I grew up in the ruff side of town. I have had my share of hearing bullets so on and so forth and I remember thinking and I still do think will things ever change. What are we doing as people to improve this situation. It has been times where bullets have went off and it has taken law enforcement absurd amount of time to come to the seen. So I just think its funny that people are crying out for help when it comes knocking on there door. When other cities have been trying to think of ideas for decades. But I do commend the IE for trying to bring the situation to the light before it becomes worse. People say that gangs start because people don’t have anything else to do. I agree then I disagree. New research shows that the people who have joined gangs wanted a title of being someone, to have fellow people around that they feel they mesh with. I personally don’t know why people join gangs. One objective was to lock-up as many gang members as possible. Which is crazy. Local jails have a huge wall full of pictures of gang members, what gang they are apart of, and what illegal actives they have been apart of. Even if they have been tried of not. The police know. How do I know this? My cousins have been caught up in gangs and have served time and they tell us everything. So its not like they don’t know who to get. But how would this really help the community? Is it teaching them a lesson? Or jest letting them think “ oh, I will just haft to serve time and get out.” I have been told from people in gangs that they rather go to jail because they wont haft to pay rent and worry about food. In jail they will be given three meals, free meals and a place to sleep. Wouldn’t locking them up only benefit them. Parents who have children in gangs don’t truly approve. Actually most of them doesn’t like the face that there daughter, son, granddaughter/ grandson etc. in the article it said that families were moving to try and better there families look on life. But they have found a way to join another gang or brought the activity to another location. I feel that if someone wants help they will get help. The IE can do everything from building more YMCA’s to awareness of the dangers in gangs. But if they aren’t willing to change and want to better themselves there truly isn’t anything they can do. But to make sure the community is family safe they could begin neighborhood watch programs. This truly does help. Not only will the community know what’s going on but it will also do two things work with their local police department to help fix the situation instead of complaining and two it will take some of the burden off of the police department. Many people think this doesn’t help but it does. We have a neighborhood watch and its stopped a lot of things. because gangs have been around for so long more then 2 decades i fell that it will take double the amount it took for gangs to be started to bring them to a hult. Rome wasnt built in a day but i belueve anything is possible. With alot of work it can be done. I honestly cant say that I’m surprised that gangs are now moving to the IE. Just because the IE isn’t south central the “watts“ or even the “projects“ doesn’t mean that they aren’t going to have this issue. People need to realize that gangs aren’t only in what people would call the “ghetto.” Yes they maybe did begin there but the wont end there.

This article somewhat annoys me to an extreme. Gangs’ have been around for a very long time. This issues hasn’t just come up. Personally I grew up in the ruff side of town. I have had my share of hearing bullets so on and so forth and I remember thinking and I still do think will things ever change. What are we doing as people to improve this situation. It has been times where bullets have went off and it has taken law enforcement absurd amount of time to come to the seen. So I just think its funny that people are crying out for help when it comes knocking on there door. When other cities have been trying to think of ideas for decades.

But I do commend the IE for trying to bring the situation to the light before it becomes worse. People say that gangs start because people don’t have anything else to do. I agree then I disagree. New research shows that the people who have joined gangs wanted a title of being someone, to have fellow people around that they feel they mesh with. I personally don’t know why people join gangs.

One objective was to lock-up as many gang members as possible. Which is crazy. Local jails have a huge wall full of pictures of gang members, what gang they are apart of, and what illegal actives they have been apart of. Even if they have been tried of not. The police know. How do I know this? My cousins have been caught up in gangs and have served time and they tell us everything. So its not like they don’t know who to get. But how would this really help the community? Is it teaching them a lesson? Or jest letting them think “ oh, I will just haft to serve time and get out.” I have been told from people in gangs that they rather go to jail because they wont haft to pay rent and worry about food. In jail they will be given three meals, free meals and a place to sleep. Wouldn’t locking them up only benefit them.

Parents who have children in gangs don’t truly approve. Actually most of them doesn’t like the face that there daughter, son, granddaughter/ grandson etc. in the article it said that families were moving to try and better there families look on life. But they have found a way to join another gang or brought the activity to another location. I feel that if someone wants help they will get help. The IE can do everything from building more YMCA’s to awareness of the dangers in gangs. But if they aren’t willing to change and want to better themselves there truly isn’t anything they can do.

But to make sure the community is family safe they could begin neighborhood watch programs. This truly does help. Not only will the community know what’s going on but it will also do two things work with their local police department to help fix the situation instead of complaining and two it will take some of the burden off of the police department. Many people think this doesn’t help but it does. We have a neighborhood watch and its stopped a lot of things.

because gangs have been around for so long more then 2 decades i fell that it will take double the amount it took for gangs to be started to bring them to a hult. Rome wasnt built in a day but i belueve anything is possible. With alot of work it can be done.

]]> By: Kodi http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-995 Kodi Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:11:45 +0000 http://elmonteblog.com/2007/10/29/new-gangs-move-into-the-ie/#comment-995 gangs are inevitable in any city you live in . no matter what area you live in there will always be gangs in America. The only way to crack down on gang activity is to stop the sale of drugs which fund the gangs. Also any other way to get rid of their funding. Raise the price of guns that might help. Have a better hold on where the guns we sell are going. check in with their owners. It would probably be better to have gangs for the neighborhood instead of outside huge gangs. The smaller they are the better. gangs are inevitable in any city you live in . no matter what area you live in there will always be gangs in America. The only way to crack down on gang activity is to stop the sale of drugs which fund the gangs. Also any other way to get rid of their funding. Raise the price of guns that might help. Have a better hold on where the guns we sell are going. check in with their owners. It would probably be better to have gangs for the neighborhood instead of outside huge gangs. The smaller they are the better.

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